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You'd think so right? But with all the added spending in retail, retail would have to hire additional employees to handle the influx --- the government has been subsiding the grocery market, since the mid 60s. If that money did not exist in the grocery supply chain, there would be fewer grocery stores. Oh and since a person will get this money even though they are employed --- the employers would have to treat employees better to keep them from walking out the door. So there's that ...
I am not sure what you are driving at, especially with that last comment. My business which is service oriented almost went belly up when covid hit. I tried to keep my employees afoat for a while, but without money coming in, it couldn't go out.
However when things started to come back only a couple of them returned. A few got other jobs which I totally get and respect. But when I found out some were just chilling at home collecting XYZ from the government and wouldn't come back (even offering them more money), it was because they became lazy pretty fast.
So it had nothing to do with the way they were treated. Heck they were working on a resort island, getting sun, meeting other young people of the opposite sex, and did not have demanding work conditions.
Yet when you are handed money just for breathing, it saps a decent amount of work ethic out of some people.
You'd think so right? But with all the added spending in retail, retail would have to hire additional employees to handle the influx --- the government has been subsiding the grocery market, since the mid 60s. If that money did not exist in the grocery supply chain, there would be fewer grocery stores. Oh and since a person will get this money even though they are employed --- the employers would have to treat employees better to keep them from walking out the door. So there's that ...
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Originally Posted by Vector1
I am not sure what you are driving at, especially with that last comment. My business which is service oriented almost went belly up when covid hit. I tried to keep my employees afoat for a while, but without money coming in, it couldn't go out.
However when things started to come back only a couple of them returned. A few got other jobs which I totally get and respect. But when I found out some were just chilling at home collecting XYZ from the government and wouldn't come back (even offering them more money), it was because they became lazy pretty fast.
So it had nothing to do with the way they were treated. Heck they were working on a resort island, getting sun, meeting other young people of the opposite sex, and did not have demanding work conditions.
Yet when you are handed money just for breathing, it saps a decent amount of work ethic out of some people.
They didn't go back to your establishment, because they had found the seed money, compliments of the u.s. government to enable them to branch out and do something they like better, like creating social media content and selling what they created to advertising companies. Or they decided to watch those videos teaching python coding, and ethical hacking ... take the money they had gotten compliments of the u.s. government and paid for the tech test which certified them into making about 60 grand a year to start and they never have to leave the comfort of their home to do it.
Hell I am 60 freaken years old --- old school way of doing died a long time ago. The age of Information Systems Highway is 32 years old and people have figured out how to use it and make money. They're not going to cashier or serve food anymore, because believe it or not they do have a brain. The $3000 a month they got from March - Sept 2020 was enough to make something and they did it.
What you got back to your establishment were the ones that didn't really care to do anything else or they didn't have an aptitude for it to begin with --- . Everyone else, made hay, or that phone app that you down loaded to your smart device, that you'll be paying a subscriber fee, because they created a service you can't live without.
btw: the UBI is handing rich folks for breathing money too --- so, you think they will stop doing what they are doing to make wealth, just because they get a little check from the government? I don't think so --- Stop thinking in the way things were and get with today's program. Food servers just couldn't find anyone willing to hire them, now they don't have to worry if they fit in a company --- they created their own.
EVERYBODY loves "free money."
NOBODY wants to work to fill the shelves with 'stuff' to buy with FREE MONEY.
. . . .
Connect the dots.
(too obscure? OK)
"Free money" is going to be confiscated from the taxpayers / workers, so that non-taxpayers / non-workers can enjoy the benefit.
(too long? OK)
"Tax and Bribery" - where the Takers outvote the Makers.
This won't end well !
During the chaotic days of the pandemic, it's alleged that an international ring of nefarious fraudsters stole over $400 billion from the United States government. This staggering amount is around 50% of unemployment monies paid out.
The story sounds like a script for an upcoming movie, starring George Clooney. Bad actors from around the world, including China, Russia, Nigeria, Romania and right here at home, looted unemployment funds earmarked for out-of-work Americans by perpetrating fraudulent claims. Unknowingly, naive Department of Labor workers sent out checks to bad guys.
And all Pelosi cares about is how quickly can she pass more trillion dollar spending bills
Rather than see the incompetence of those folks who work in State government and Federal ones too --- you see fraudsters? There is only one way that happens --- and your paying their salaries.
I am all for UBI if we have truth from govt, an immigration & citizenship system like Canada which is very strict, a yearly balanced budget, and the same tax rates & fees we have now. That and giving those that receive UBI a bright yellow card that has to be used when they spend their money - so everyone can see who they are.
it will just make the cost of everything go up....and completely void it
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