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Take net worth off the table, you don’t need $1M network to be comfortable in America and you know that.
I provided numerous examples of options men have now to literally make money from the comfort of their homes (the same homes they’re spending hours in playing video games, watching p0rn, and ranting on Reddit forums about life). Back then men would have to do dangerous jobs to earn a living and now it’s not the case. What is the excuse? In high school most honors and AP classes are women, what is stopping boys from enrolling? Don’t tell me “school is feminized”. Capitalism is a man’s game and women are still playing it.
In regards to the single moms. The scraping by you’re right. But again, they are scraping by to their credit in their own homes/apartments.. These “men” are literally complaining about women when more often than not their shelter is provided by a female (either grandma, mom, or girlfriend). Even if you take Black America for example, women are often the heads of most households.
You never answered my question. What is stopping these incels from going to barber school (everyone needs haircuts everywhere)? What is stopping them from going on Harvard and taking one of their free online courses? What is stopping them from going on YouTube and learning dropshipping?
You’re telling me these men have enough money to spend on OnlyFans models, marijuana, and UberEats but can’t use that money for a 6-months course on E-Commerce?
Haven’t we been telling minorities for decades “pull yourself by your bootstraps”? Why can’t these losers do the same? This is America.
Their aren’t THAT many men rolling in dough from the comfort of their home. Rents are $1500-2000/month nowadays, cars cost more than ever, everything else costs more too. The average barber probably does little more than squeak out a normal existence after his bills are paid. I certainly don’t know any wealthy barbers in my rural town…a few seem to be comfortably middle class.
Again, I disagree that women are inherently more responsible and independent nowadays. Plenty of women are raising children while living with family or being subsidized by the government or another partner. I don’t say that to disparage women in particular, but I wouldn’t say they are any less lazy than men in general. In fact, women on average may not work as hard as men considering men care far less about how much money a woman makes. For example, a woman could go to college, major in cultural studies and then work part time at Starbucks — for most men that doesn’t diminish her value as a potential partner at all. But as you’ve alluded to, the standards for a male having value mean he needs to go above and beyond…to put himself in the top 10%.
I’m not sure what we’ve been telling minorities for decades. We do know some general rules though that work for most everyone as far as avoiding poverty — graduate high school, work, don’t have children out of wedlock, don’t commit crimes, live below your means.
Their aren’t THAT many men rolling in dough from the comfort of their home. Rents are $1500-2000/month nowadays, cars cost more than ever, everything else costs more too. The average barber probably does little more than squeak out a normal existence after his bills are paid. I certainly don’t know any wealthy barbers in my rural town…a few seem to be comfortably middle class.
Again, I disagree that women are inherently more responsible and independent nowadays. Plenty of women are raising children while living with family or being subsidized by the government or another partner. I don’t say that to disparage women in particular, but I wouldn’t say they are any less lazy than men in general. In fact, women on average may not work as hard as men considering men care far less about how much money a woman makes. For example, a woman could go to college, major in cultural studies and then work part time at Starbucks — for most men that doesn’t diminish her value as a potential partner at all. But as you’ve alluded to, the standards for a male having value mean he needs to go above and beyond…to put himself in the top 10%.
I’m not sure what we’ve been telling minorities for decades. We do know some general rules though that work for most everyone as far as avoiding poverty — graduate high school, work, don’t have children out of wedlock, don’t commit crimes, live below your means.
Then those boys need to move from their rural towns and go where opportunities are. In my city barbers once you have enough experience, marketing skills, and network you can clear 6 figs. If you provide a full grooming experience $100 a head and you see 20 clients a week, do the math.
You can live in a rural town and make money on the internet. My nephew is 9 learning coding. The boys you’re talking about mostly also live in nice lilly pristine suburbs with the resources available to them. But they sure know how to stay high, order food, and become Call Of Duty experts at home.
A friend of mine grew up in the South Bronx in a neighborhood of weekly shootings and danger all around after the effects of Iran-Contra. He’s now an accountant with his CPA. Another friend of mine she grew up in Newark, another high-crime dangerous and under-funded area and she now works in public health. Yeah, rent was hard to make growing up for them too and they still made it. Dr. Ben Carson grew up in the projects of Detroit and he became a brain surgeon. You ever ask yourself how funny it is people from poor countries come here and dominate STEM fields as a way out of poverty meanwhile tell these boys anything involving some math/science it’s too intimidating for them.
These boys soft as Charmin. Stop making excuses for them.
How did "homely men" find partners in past decades?
In past decades, a woman who hadn't married at age 30 or so had failed. There wasn't a lot of room in society for women without partners, unless you were very high or very low. An old maid or a spinster was a sad figure, a confirmed bachelor not so much. Jobs for middle-class women were mostly placeholders until they could find a man - and single women were clearly a threat around anyone's husband.
Now, women can build successful lives for themselves, enjoy financial freedom, and aren't forced to enter into marriage to merely have a satisfactory, safe life. Meanwhile, men have decided to remain teenagers well into their thirties. Women are looking at what's out there and going "Nah", and I can't say I blame them.
Then those boys need to move from their rural towns and go where opportunities are. In my city barbers once you have enough experience, marketing skills, and network you can clear 6 figs. If you provide a full grooming experience $100 a head and you see 20 clients a week, do the math.
You can live in a rural town and make money on the internet. My nephew is 9 learning coding. The boys you’re talking about mostly also live in nice lilly pristine suburbs with the resources available to them.
A friend of mine grew up in the South Bronx in a neighborhood of weekly shootings and danger all around. He’s now an accountant with his CPA. Another friend of mine she grew up in Newark, another high-crime dangerous and under-funded area and she now works in public health. Yeah, rent was hard to make growing up for them too and they still made it. Dr. Ben Carson grew up in the projects of Detroit and he became a brain surgeon.
These boys soft as Charmin. Stop making excuses for them.
I find it hard to believe that people can simply up and move their entire life, become a barber and as a result instantly become wealthy. No doubt it works for a certain percentage of people who are talented enough via skill or marketing or their ability to network, but that might be the top 10% of barbers — the other 90% are probably living average lives no matter how hard they try. The same could be said for many professions though. I mean you could be in the top 5% of pet groomers and make $100k or you could be the other 95% that just make a living wage. There’s probably something out there that many of us are our best at, but ya can’t try everything and most will simply never be among the best at whatever they do.
In past decades, a woman who hadn't married at age 30 or so had failed. There wasn't a lot of room in society for women without partners, unless you were very high or very low. An old maid or a spinster was a sad figure, a confirmed bachelor not so much. Jobs for middle-class women were mostly placeholders until they could find a man - and single women were clearly a threat around anyone's husband.
Now, women can build successful lives for themselves, enjoy financial freedom, and aren't forced to enter into marriage to merely have a satisfactory, safe life. Meanwhile, men have decided to remain teenagers well into their thirties. Women are looking at what's out there and going "Nah", and I can't say I blame them.
I’m not sure that I buy the argument that modern women on average are inherently more successful, financial savvy and mature compared to their male counterparts. I know PLENTY of lazy women who live in financial squalor…most however, can pretty easily get a date if they want one.
When the ruling class discovers an injustice, they will go to extremes to eliminate that injustice but what happens in reality is that the injustice just shifts to the opposite extreme. This is what we are seeing with men and women. Incels need to understand that sexual activity is not the be all end all of existence. They need to find productive outlets for their frustations and to punish the ruling class, those productive outlets should be geared to benefiting themselves and other men but not the matriarchy.
If incels actually believed sex was the end all of existence, they wouldn't be incels. You seem to think incels are men who are trying really hard to have sex but no one wants to sleep with them. If their only goal was sex, they would leave their mom's basement. Plus there are plenty of prostitutes. They could lose their virginity for $50 if that is what actually mattered.
Most incels are really just romantics. They're not angry, they're disappointed. They simply cannot foresee an avenue by which they will ever be happy.
I would probably lump myself into the incel category, and I'm 6'2", fairly good looking, and own my own home. I was also raised by a single mother, the youngest child, and I've watched everyone I know have bad relationships, and children, and custody battles, and infidelity. I have a special hatred of whores, and our family court system, child support, etc.
My best friend has to pay $1000 a month to his ***** ex-wife, who also threw him in jail because he took her phone while they were having an argument, and since she told him she was calling the police and he didn't give the phone back, then even though he did eventually give it back, he was obstructing her ability to make an emergency call or some crap.
I loved my mother more than anyone in the world, but she had five children from three different men, and lived the last 20 years of her life more-or-less single. Most of that though I blame on the men in her life, and because I loved my mother so much, I often wondered what would have needed to change so that things would have turned out better for her.
One of the things they touch on in the video is that there is this zero-sum game being played by feminists who want to punish men and take the highest positions in society for themselves. What they don't understand is that when men do badly, women do badly. By hurting men, they are only hurting themselves.
Men and women are supposed to be partners, not competitors, and not enemies. Thus the fundamental problem is that men and women have been turned against each other.
But as you may know, I tend to blame capitalism and democracy for everything. I would destroy both if I could.
Hard work provides an opportunity, it does not guarantee outcome.
So does buying a lottery ticket.
Looking at success stories, you have to factor in all those guys who worked hard and just didn't make it. For most people, the reward for a hard day's work at low wages is - another day of hard work.
Those who advance against the odds are the exceptions - by definition, actually - and pointing out their success to those who didn't isn't useful. Crypto? That's like making money on a less-regulated stock market. And making money on the stock market is a casino game as-is. Bit players can get lucky, but most don't.
Looking at success stories, you have to factor in all those guys who worked hard and just didn't make it. For most people, the reward for a hard day's work at low wages is - another day of hard work.
Those who advance against the odds are the exceptions - by definition, actually - and pointing out their success to those who didn't isn't useful. Crypto? That's like making money on a less-regulated stock market. And making money on the stock market is a casino game as-is. Bit players can get lucky, but most don't.
It's a spending problem. Plus there's the government induced inflation.
I’m not sure that I buy the argument that modern women on average are inherently more successful, financial savvy and mature compared to their male counterparts. I know PLENTY of lazy women who live in financial squalor…most however, can pretty easily get a date if they want one.
I am sorry if my post came across that way, because that wasn't what I intended to convey. Someone asked how men found partners in past decades, and the answer is in no little part that for women in past decades, finding a man was their accepted way to a secure (and societally approved) life. Not the case any more.
Women no longer more or less have to hitch their cart to a man to be accepted. They mostly had to, not that long ago.
As for today's averages... 60% of US college students are women. That is going to influence average incomes going forward. (On the flip side of that, well-paid trades aren't overly populated with women - not that many female oil rig workers or longshore(wo)men.)
They can certainly get a date if they want to to. But the societal pressure to land a man before an expiration date has lifted. Which does put the men who may not have that much going for them at a disadvantage.
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