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So whats happening is that when foreign fighters for ISIS are captured, we are bringing them into the USA for trial DESPITE the fact that none of them are Americans and in fact many of them didn't even attack American forces.
Why is that a problem?
Because after these guys serve their prison sentences, where do you think they are going to go? Syria and Iraq are going to refuse to take them back. Which means judges in the United States will force us to accept these criminals back on American streets.
Many of you will say "no chance, they are all going to get life in prison" and my respones to that is are you sure? These terrorist activities happened in war zones with few or zero witnesses who can confirm anything. These guys were randomly scooped off battlefields and we can't even prove their identity with any certainty.
USA has no business bringign these criminals here. The trials cost a ton of money. Somebody explain to me why we are charging British terrorists here when their crimes were committed overseas?
Britain and other countries are playing us for fools. They know that the evidence in these cases is weak, and they don't want to take the chance of these guys getting off on some technicality because they know that judges will not force them to be deported to a country that refuses to take them.
Once these criminals enter the USA, they are never leaving. So you'd better hope and pray that they all get life sentences because once they are here, they are OUR problem forever.
our prisons are nicer than many hotels from their countrys
US prisons are totally INHUMANE, compared to other countries prisons, (by a long shot too)...
In the US, prisoners all wear the same uniforms, its concrete and steel, most of them ONLY allow visitations on video screens...(video screens for petes sake?! LOL)
In Mexican jails, inmates wear their own clothing, in the womens section, its more like apartments, they are given supplies to care for their young children, and they allow the children to live there with them if they need to, (this would NEVER be allowed in the US, they would sent a baby to social services first!)
Mexican prisons also allow visitors access to the whole prison, including inmates cells, one warden was asked if this is safe and he said "there is no way we could screen every visitor that comes on visiting day, the day would be over before we got halfway thru the line".
Eastern European prisons look more like apartments too, its drywall, wood construction on the inside, they can have their own appliances as well, they also wear their own clothing, visiting policies are similar to Mexican prisons.
In the US, how can you restrict a mother (who is in jail) and only allow her to see her kids on a freaking video screen? that is cruel at another level.
US prisons are totally INHUMANE, compared to other countries prisons, (by a long shot too)...
In the US, prisoners all wear the same uniforms, its concrete and steel, most of them ONLY allow visitations on video screens...(video screens for petes sake?! LOL)
In Mexican jails, inmates wear their own clothing, in the womens section, its more like apartments, they are given supplies to care for their young children, and they allow the children to live there with them if they need to, (this would NEVER be allowed in the US, they would sent a baby to social services first!)
Mexican prisons also allow visitors access to the whole prison, including inmates cells, one warden was asked if this is safe and he said "there is no way we could screen every visitor that comes on visiting day, the day would be over before we got halfway thru the line".
Eastern European prisons look more like apartments too, its drywall, wood construction on the inside, they can have their own appliances as well, they also wear their own clothing, visiting policies are similar to Mexican prisons.
In the US, how can you restrict a mother (who is in jail) and only allow her to see her kids on a freaking video screen? that is cruel at another level.
We've all learned from the owl-eyed, limp-wristed Attorney General that the real terrorists in this country are parents at school board meetings who are against indoctrination of their children with "progressive" notions about race and gender.
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Britain and other countries are playing us for fools. They know that the evidence in these cases is weak, and they don't want to take the chance of these guys getting off on some technicality because they know that judges will not force them to be deported to a country that refuses to take them.
If you don't want these individuals then don't request their extradition, and no one is playing the US for fools.
These type of individuals are the type who believe in a warped ideology and want to attack the US and her allies, therefore if the US wants to keep them behind bars, then good for the US.
Other countries have similar individuals behind bars, with a number serving very long sentences or whole life tariffs.
In terms of Kotey, he was sentenced to the rest of his life in prison, the initial 15 years being in the US prison system, before being transferred to a prison in the United Kingdom.
Kotey has now pleaded guilty to 'multiple charges, including conspiracy to commit hostage taking resulting in death and conspiracy to murder U.S. citizens outside the United States, and may now stay in a US prison for the rest of his days, however this is not any other countries fault nor are we playing anyone for a fool.
In terms of a similar case the other way, American David Bieber is currently serving 37 years before he can apply for parole in 2041, when he will be 75 years old. Bieber is wanted in Florida for a different murder, so will be extradited. Biebers initial offence was the murder of an unarmed British police officer in 2003.
Last I heard David Bieber, also known as Nathan Wayne Coleman, was accused of the attempted murder of Alison Smith following an incident at HMP Long Lartin, he was also previously involved in an escape attempt at HMP Whitemoor.
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