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Old 01-30-2022, 01:22 PM
 
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You should do exactly what you're doing if you don't like the choices you have. And clearly it's people like you that can make a difference in local elections even more so, versus those that just vote on a party line.
If nothing else, I think we can do better than what we have now.
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Old 01-30-2022, 05:02 PM
 
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More and more democrats are sounding like this man. Which is a good thing. Many I know swear to never vote democrat again thanks to joey
Biden is the "Never Vote Democrat" Poster Boy.
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Old 01-30-2022, 06:34 PM
 
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If nothing else, I think we can do better than what we have now.
Spongebob would be better.
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Old 01-31-2022, 08:18 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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It's interesting that the guy said that the party is becoming unrecognizable. I used that same wording up thread when describing how my FIL would have felt if he was alive today about the Dems.

Free speech
Anit-illegal immigration
Pro working class Americans
Common sense middle of the road values

Those are just a few things off the top of my head that they Dems used to support
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Old 01-31-2022, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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He's not alone:

Bill Maher: It's not my fault that the party of FDR and JFK is turning into the party of LOL and WTF.

How the Left Was Lost

In reality the party of FDR and JFK has become the party of Marx, Ingels, Lenin and Stalin.
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Old 01-31-2022, 01:20 PM
 
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So if you put up an opposing argument you are "off topic" or trolling??
I hear that on days when a certain someone is the moderator.

No point posting a thing. She deletes it all for trolling or off topic.

But the guy who is disappointed with the democrats lost me when he said he supported Harris from day 1. That tells me he knows little about blue dogs.
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Old 01-31-2022, 02:09 PM
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He's not alone:

Bill Maher: It's not my fault that the party of FDR and JFK is turning into the party of LOL and WTF.

How the Left Was Lost
Bill Maher is a liberal I respect. He's for free speech and critisized Islam when other liberals wouldn't dare. He's the type of liberal that I agree with on a lot of things.
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Old 01-31-2022, 02:12 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Bill Maher is a liberal I respect. He's for free speech and critisized Islam when other liberals wouldn't dare. He's the type of liberal that I agree with on a lot of things.
Bill Maher is the old school free speech advocate type of liberal. What these people on the left are doing is getting conflated so everything that is really more progressive leftist is now generically being called Liberal.

It kind of annoys me because I consider myself more of the classic definition of Liberal, but oh well, what can ya do?
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Old 01-31-2022, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Why even bother....

Unless it's a Ross Perot - a guy with money - who can get his message out - get the polling numbers, and be included in the debates....

YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME.

And I'm a registered Libertarian for at least 15 years, but would never bother voting L in a national election.
Now imagine if millions thought like you did. Voting for someone they don't want, because "it's pointless to vote for a desirable 3rd party".

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, isn't it? Might as well not vote, it's just one anyways, not gonna make a difference?

Vote for the candidate you want to represent you! Anything else is a bad vote. Oh, and let's fix those gerrymandering/electoral college messes etc.
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Old 01-31-2022, 04:11 PM
 
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Now imagine if millions thought like you did. Voting for someone they don't want, because "it's pointless to vote for a desirable 3rd party".

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, isn't it? Might as well not vote, it's just one anyways, not gonna make a difference?

Vote for the candidate you want to represent you! Anything else is a bad vote. Oh, and let's fix those gerrymandering/electoral college messes etc.
It depends.

If the Libertarians have even a slim chance they need to get more traction

Check out SAM.
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