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Old 01-30-2022, 11:36 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Originally Posted by eddie gein View Post
It works both ways. Despite your denialism...

https://time.com/6117685/book-bans-school-libraries/
in canuck-land they burn 'em.

 
Old 01-30-2022, 12:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ClaraC View Post
No. It's just my experience that when someone takes a big public stand against Gay rights, and makes it a part of their public persona, they tend to be gay.

People who are not gay but are not for gay rights, tend to be quieter about it, or not care all that much.
Nope. By that logic you would have to believe that the majority of the 2.25 billion Muslins on the earth are all secretly gay since they are vehemently against homosexuality.

People who stand up for what they believe in tend to be loud. Pretending that they are behaving because they "secretly" want to participate in the same behavior is one of the most baseless and illogical arguments there are. Followed by just insult the source. Your posts have accomplished both.
 
Old 01-30-2022, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The article explains that citizens have complained, that this is taxpayer money, that the mayor will leave legalities to the attorneys, but is withholding funds for now. People in the community complained. They should be heard. Is there pornography? Is it unsuitable content for kids? The article doesn’t say.

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“We’re holding (the money) right now because we found a large number of citizens who have complained about displays of sexual, whatever you want to call it, content. We’re just responding to those citizens’ complaints, and that’s the position we’re in.”
According to the link, the COUNTY library has a formal process to object to how books are classified, adult vs child.

According to the library spokesperson, most complaints don’t use the form that would trigger a review.

This mayor’s use of his own religious beliefs to ban certain books in a public county library is destined to fail.

Is he soon up for election to a 9th term and chooses to get some national attention with this stunt?

I am always fascinated by the differences in how public services are funded throughout the country.
 
Old 01-30-2022, 12:55 PM
 
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I don't know if he has the legal authority to do that, but I certainly understand where he is coming from. Who wants to see indoctrination literature like that in their libraries?

https://www.mississippifreepress.org...brary-funding/
His personal beliefs are not everyone’s. If he cannot uphold his office in a professional manner (separating his religion from business) he should resign.
 
Old 01-30-2022, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Sex isn't in the domain of the educational system. Anything of this nature is out of bounds.

I remember when this debate started, not long after I was out of high school. They wanted to start teaching "sex ed" in high school. They got that, then they went for junior high schools. Then elementary. Now, morons are psychologically destroying their children by claiming they're trans at 5 years old. All of this is the result of what they're being told in the schools.

I didn't really have a strong opinion about it when it started. As with most people, politics wasn't in the forefront of my life and both sides made decent points. In hindsight, more people should've understood where it could lead and the damage it could do.

If more people, including myself, had taken it (and many other things) more seriously over the past few decades, all of the problems we face today wouldn't exist. Social, economic, geopolitical - all of it is a result of our failure to be involved with the political process and our apathy about policy generally. Now that we're getting involved, we're being labeled as extremists and terrorists. This is our own fault. We let it happen.
 
Old 01-30-2022, 01:08 PM
 
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Sex isn't in the domain of the educational system. Anything of this nature is out of bounds.

I remember when this debate started, not long after I was out of high school. They wanted to start teaching "sex ed" in high school. They got that, then they went for junior high schools. Then elementary. Now, morons are psychologically destroying their children by claiming they're trans at 5 years old. All of this is the result of what they're being told in the schools.

I didn't really have a strong opinion about it when it started. As with most people, politics wasn't in the forefront of my life and both sides made decent points. In hindsight, more people should've understood where it could lead and the damage it could do.

If more people, including myself, had taken it (and many other things) more seriously over the past few decades, all of the problems we face today wouldn't exist. Social, economic, geopolitical - all of it is a result of our failure to be involved with the political process and our apathy about policy generally. Now that we're getting involved, we're being labeled as extremists and terrorists. This is our own fault. We let it happen.
Well, you're right about one thing. This isn't in the domain of the educational system.

This story is about the public library system, and the mayor somehow believing he has the right to choose what titles go into that library or withhold taxpayer appropriated money.
 
Old 01-30-2022, 01:20 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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Censorship can be a tricky issue. I was a professional librarian and we were taught never to censor books. Yet, in a small public library did we leave a huge collection of old Playboy magazines out for the kids to read? No. The magazines were available but you would have to know they were there and to ask for one--and the place to read them was in some obscure location, IIRC.

There's nothing wrong with knowing about LGBT but I can understand that some parents might not think their kids are ready to know about it yet.

BUT in a public library the whole point is that information is made available to everyone for free. Equal access. There are books that I find repulsive but it was my obligation to make sure they were available to the public anyway.

And it works both ways, left and right, if we're talking politics. I hate it when the left tries to ban children's books or classics. Anyway, it barely matters these days when they can find anything online. I don't know if libraries control the access of their computers so that some kid can't sit there and watch porn. It's not up to a politician to ban something from a library. That's not his job. Better parenting might be the answer along with education in the schools--not education that something is good or bad, but learning how to think for themselves see things within context.
 
Old 01-30-2022, 01:20 PM
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Gotta stop with the indoctrination propaganda.
Let nature take its course. Stop trying to force and brainwash people who may or may not be gay, to be gay. Especially these whacko parents grooming their little kids. Should be charged with child abuse.
 
Old 01-30-2022, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Same. People who ban books, podcasts, information, etc., are never on the right side of history.
Exactly. The road goes both ways.
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