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Old 01-24-2022, 08:36 PM
 
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https://www.warhistoryonline.com/ame...lanations.html

I have found this an interesting article, some of which I knew, other points that bring a new perspective. As example, I had no idea that North Carolina and Georgia withheld forces, instead building up arms and men from the army so they could strengthen their own State Militias.

Another one mentioned is that the political and civil service was strong in the north, but not in the south.

It's an interesting read. It's not the common narrative one hears, and perhaps reading this will give others a new perspective.

 
Old 01-24-2022, 08:54 PM
 
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Virginia should have struck a deal with the Union, and let the Union attack NC while Virginia gets to keep slavery. That is how you play the game.
 
Old 01-24-2022, 09:00 PM
 
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The north had more money, more industries and more people then the south.
 
Old 01-24-2022, 09:08 PM
 
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Mistakes were made. The war was lost by the end of the first day of battle at Gettysburg when the Union army was driven back to the South and held the high ground around Cemetery Ridge. Lee should have immediately turned his army around and driven North in a savage thrust right into the heart of Canada and put that sponging remora fish of a country out of our misery for the next 160 years.
 
Old 01-24-2022, 09:15 PM
 
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Mistakes were made. The war was lost by the end of the first day of battle at Gettysburg when the Union army was driven back to the South and held the high ground around Cemetery Ridge. Lee should have immediately turned his army around and driven North in a savage thrust right into the heart of Canada and put that sponging remora fish of a country out of our misery for the next 160 years.
It was over before it began. The North had the industrial advantage, the naval advantage, and the population advantage. You would have to be incredibly incompetent to lose any war when you have all of that going for you.
 
Old 01-24-2022, 09:15 PM
 
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They weren't losing until Sherman made Georgia howl.
Then they lost. It took 38 weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8kSUDp2BC0
 
Old 01-24-2022, 09:18 PM
 
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Virginia should have struck a deal with the Union, and let the Union attack NC while Virginia gets to keep slavery. That is how you play the game.
Sure, and the heck with all those human beings ensnared as slaves, right? I mean, let's keep them subjugated, right?
 
Old 01-24-2022, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Austin
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It was over before it began. The North had the industrial advantage, the naval advantage, and the population advantage. You would have to be incredibly incompetent to lose any war when you have all of that going for you.
And yet they F'd up so thoroughly and for so long that they nearly lost it. Shoeless, undermanned, outgunned bunch of Southern boys who'd been hunting squirrels since they could crawl nearly beat the industrial might and numbers of the North. How many generals did Lincoln have to go through before he found one that wouldn't spontaneously wet himself every time Lee took the field? Sometimes right triumphs ignominiously and for all the wrong reasons.
 
Old 01-24-2022, 09:23 PM
 
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Good article to discuss in history class but at the end it says : The outcome of the war was decided by a complex mix of factors. How important each one was is a matter of opinion and ever-shifting debate.

The North won because they had the bigger Army and more resources and Lincoln was willing to go tyrant and keep the North in line by putting his critics in jail and closing newspapers and suspending the constitution as the same to the South. He torched the South and choked them with a blockade of food and medicine. Lincoln was willing to go the extra mile of being ruthless on steroids than the South.

If Great Britain had Lincoln has their King, the U.S. today would be part of G.B. and he would have torched the 13 colonies and hung George Washington and the founding fathers from a rope in London.
 
Old 01-24-2022, 09:29 PM
 
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And yet they F'd up so thoroughly and for so long that they nearly lost it. Shoeless, undermanned, outgunned bunch of Southern boys who'd been hunting squirrels since they could crawl nearly beat the industrial might and numbers of the North. How many generals did Lincoln have to go through before he found one that wouldn't spontaneously wet himself every time Lee took the field? Sometimes right triumphs ignominiously and for all the wrong reasons.
Brilliant strategists and good soldiers that believe they are fighting for their way of life against invaders will get you far, but the population, logistics, and naval advantages were always going to win in the end.

They managed to make it REALLY bloody, but when you can continue to send a steady stream of well equipped soldiers into the meat grinder, eventually you are going to win against a smaller, poorly equipped force.

The relative lack of industry in the south meant that supplies would be finite and small in number, the naval blockade prevented them from accessing outside assistance, the small numbers meant that they couldn't afford to take heavy losses.....it was inevitable from day 1 that they'd lose.
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