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Hilarious. The bolded is impossible. Democratic socialism or whatever you want to call it goes against the fundamentals of human nature.
Democratic Socialism consolidates power in the hands of the entity that does the regulating. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely, and centralized power corrupts centrally. If you want less corruption, decentralize power.
Precisely why it is regulated. Humans are rather nasty creatures to deal with when they are greedy.
Under your law-of-the-jungle system, which is essentially "might makes right", what would prevent your being killed by someone who wanted to take your position and possessions? If there is no central power to regulate it, that would be a very real possibility.
Precisely why it is regulated. Humans are rather nasty creatures to deal with when they are greedy.
Under your law-of-the-jungle system, which is essentially "might makes right", what would prevent your being killed by someone who wanted to take your position and possessions? If there is no central power to regulate it, that would be a very real possibility.
So instead we should have the Government forcibly steal my possessions on their behalf to literally set on fire?
Government's only role is to maintain order and enforce property rights. NOTHING ELSE. And the check on Government is keeping it as small as humanly possible and forcing it to remain that way by starving it. And an armed population. There's a reason the Second Amendment is a thing.
Government has no business picking winners and losers through nonsensical regulation, which is what the so-called democratic socialists want Government to do. And that's before I account for the Government's long, consistent and illustrious track record of complete failure in regulating markets.
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Hope to God these fascist fantasies never come true.
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Well someone needs to check them hard.
I am 50 so I am in the generation that always had to pay for the boomers actions.
I want to see.
- major changes to housing in this country.
a. Less rental properties.
b. a real examination of zoning as it seems to have done little to make layout better and only seems a way to give rich people the ability to do things while stopping the poor.
c. Smaller housing forced on developers. No one needs a 5 bedroom McMansion any longer.
- a Major change to health care.
- no more corporations telling doctors how to treat for their better bottom line.
- A complete head to toe revamping of employment laws. Starting with "at will employment" - when employment becomes a life line for everyone it can't be -- I can fire you for any reason.
- Kicking out the vast majority of illegal aliens and cracking down hard on people who are internal enemies to this country.
- Complete destruction of the current educational model in favor of cheap on line classes.
- Complete revamping of the criminal laws -and justice system. In favor of crimes that really effect people today and in favor of locking up anyone dangerous and, if that means we have to build 500 more prisons, so be it.
So instead we should have the Government forcibly steal my possessions on their behalf to literally set on fire?
No, from people that make your life savings 100X over look like a melted chocolate coin lost in the sandbox.
Say it with me: "I'm in the peasant class, not a temporarily embarrassed billionaire"
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And back to your essential worker point - all workers are essential. End of Discussion. The idea that some distant overpaid bureaucrat who routinely incinerates value arbitrarily deciding that your job is "not essential" is somehow a better decision making model than the free market is patently ridiculous.
I never intended to make that point, just pointing out that corporations have massive incentive to erode the power of essential workers (and yes, some of them are more essential than others, I'm a big fan of those who enable me to eat food and drink water). I'm in no way advocating that the govt decides what jobs don't need to exist. Unless your job is hoarding the wealth of an entire planet, but that's a personal opinion
No, from people that make your life savings 100X over look like a melted chocolate coin lost in the sandbox.
Say it with me: "I'm in the peasant class, not a temporarily embarrassed billionaire"
You know as well as I do that those giveaways will NEVER be funded by those people. So tell me, give me ONE GOOD REASON why you believe you are entitled to a part of my hard-earned income and assets just because I have more than you.
When it comes to the allocation of resources, Government does one thing and one thing ONLY - it is VERY GOOD at reallocating resources to itself. Nothing else. The middle class didn't exist until the advent of a free market capitalist economy and Governments stopped centrally planning economies. That should tell you all you need to know about the ability of Government to enrich your life, of which, btw, it has none whatsoever.
Why do you 20-30 year olds want the government to provide
Free stuff? Why not work for it?
They feel entitled. No concept of the notion that you cherish something more, knowing that you worked hard for it. They want to skip over that part. The video game is waiting. I cant tell how many people that i've worked with that say their kids are haplessly going through life wanting free chit. Down the road, all these individuals eventually face the truth, waiting for free stuff gets you nowhere in life.
You know as well as I do that those giveaways will NEVER be funded by those people. So tell me, give me ONE GOOD REASON why you believe you are entitled to a part of my hard-earned income and assets just because I have more than you.
When it comes to the allocation of resources, Government does one thing and one thing ONLY - it is VERY GOOD at reallocating resources to itself. Nothing else. The middle class didn't exist until the advent of a free market capitalist economy and Governments stopped centrally planning economies. That should tell you all you need to know about the ability of Government to enrich your life, of which, btw, it has none whatsoever.
You can't just say "not gonna happen", and then force me to answer your strawman.
There's a reason my original post only proposed giving the NLRB some legal teeth, not a vague suggestion of "tax the rich" (even though I support the notion at its face value). Balance follows when you cease the constant attacks, fear-mongering, and propaganda against any and all worker-based collective bargaining methods. It runs very, very deep, and the problem must be uprooted.
You can't just say "not gonna happen", and then force me to answer your strawman.
There's a reason my original post only proposed giving the NLRB some legal teeth, not a vague suggestion of "tax the rich" (even though I support the notion at its face value). Balance follows when you cease the constant attacks, fear-mongering, and propaganda against any and all worker-based collective bargaining methods. It runs very, very deep, and the problem must be uprooted.
Regulation has a cost. Every single word of regulation on the books today is a tax.
Also if unions did their jobs instead of becoming corrupt glorified SuperPACs, people would have more sympathy for them. I only need to look at the performance of the public school teachers' unions in negotiating better pay for its members to know all I need to know about unions. The only thing unions enrich these days is the unions themselves.
Again, give me one good reason why I should have to bear the cost of people being paid more than their fair market value.
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So tell me, give me ONE GOOD REASON why you believe you are entitled to a part of my hard-earned income and assets just because I have more than you.