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Bingo…the obsession with black coaches is ridiculous, and it’s hilarious how they ignore that Flores wore out his welcome with the GM, Tua, and ownership on his own. I so hope there’s a defamation suit against him for claiming he was offered $100k to tank.
That's not my division. My is AFC North but Flores and his problems in Miami weren't getting better. He is not the coach to take on the Bills and the Patriots in the division and ending on his 3rd year at #3 in the division is not going to cut it.
That was an obvious declined: last year the offense scored 404 points and allowed 330 points(and didn't make the playoffs) then this year they went backwards with scoring 341 and allowed 373. That's 63 points scoring difference backwards and allowing -43 allowing points backwards.
The owner saw it wasn't going to get better and Flores had to go. If Flores was white this wouldn't be news.
That's not my division. My is AFC North but Flores and his problems in Miami weren't getting better. He is not the coach to take on the Bills and the Patriots in the division and ending on his 3rd year at #3 in the division is not going to cut it.
That was an obvious declined: last year the offense scored 404 points and allowed 330 points(and didn't make the playoffs) then this year they went backwards with scoring 341 and allowed 373. That's 63 points scoring difference backwards and allowing -43 allowing points backwards.
The owner saw it wasn't going to get better and Flores had to go. If Flores was white this wouldn't be news.
Totally agree, and my division is also AFC North but I follow every NFL team as much as possible.
I just find it hilarious that now he’s throwing out the tanking allegation. Why didn’t he mention it before, and since he didn’t it obviously means it’s not true, or he valued his paycheck more than making the allegation before he cried racism.
Mostly players. There is currently one black head coach. Not sure about upper management in the NFL, but I bet it is at about that 1/32 percent as well. The fact that Bill Belichick knew the Giants were going to hire Brian Daboll before they had interviewed Flores is pretty damming. Flores had two straight winning seasons at Miami and was still fired.
Damning how? That Belichick got his Brians mixed up? LOL.
The problem, as another poster pointed out, is the Rooney rule itself, requiring all NFL teams that have an opening to interview a black candidate for their head coach position. It’s not like a blind man couldn’t see the problem with that from a mile away. Prior to that rule, any black coach invited to interview for a head coach position could reasonably assume they were being seriously considered for the position. With the rule in effect, the interview request means nothing, and the black coach is left wondering if he is actually a serious contender, or just a pawn to satisfy “the rule”. It would have to be a humiliating experience to travel to a distant city, with no way of knowing if the team was legitimately interested in hiring you, or just using you to satisfy an NFL requirement. I think it’s an insult to black coaches.
As for him being fired after two winning seasons, crazier things have happened with white coaches. You see this all the time. Hell, look at Jimmie Johnson! The Cowboys fired him after back to back Super Bowl wins!! But it’s even more than that, because not only did Johnson coach the team to two Super Bowl wins, the trade he orchestrated (known as the great trade robbery) with the Vikings involving Herschel Walker was what facilitated Johnson’s top to bottom rebuilding of an aging Cowboy team into a dynastic power house winning 3 Super Bowls in 4 years. Firing Johnson was the dumbest thing any owner has ever done in the history of professional football, and it was all about two egos being too large to coexist, the Coach that did it and the Owner who claimed the credit.
Hiring a head coach is much more complicated than people understand. Its not just about the assessment of an individual and their personal qualifications to perform the job at a high level, but often involves other equally compelling factors, such as their relationships with other highly qualified and in demand assistant coaches, talent scouts, and their philosophy about what type of team you want to build, and how to build it, and finding the right players that fit the scheme. It’s a complex situation, because it’s a very small club, and these guys often have worked together on other teams, serving in other positions, and it’s the trust factor among them, and how their philosophies either complement or detract from the end goal. Back to Jimmie Johnson … everyone in Dallas thought Johnson had lost his mind trading Walker to the Vikings, and everyone in Minnesota thought they had pulled off the big win over the new green Cowboys coach from College Ball fame. Johnson knew better, and history looks at the trade now as the most lopsided trade in NFL history as Jimmie ended up with 5 or 6 pro bowl players for Walker, one of which was Hall of Fame Emmit Smith, who ended up to be worth more than Walker, all by himself. But if Johnson had squandered the draft picks on the wrong players, history may have had a different story to tell.
And teams often make mistakes. The Washington Redskins are a perfect example …. both head coaches in the NFC championship game this year, Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan are both former Offensive Coordinators for the Redskins, and neither were ever considered for the HC job that has been filled by others over the recent years. Shanahan has a strong pedigree, and McVay did an outstanding job with the Redskins, and literally transformed the Rams almost overnight into a Super Bowl Contender. The Redskin Offense hasn’t recovered from McVay leaving.
Lets just say that hiring a HC for an NFL team is far from a simple black and white decision.
^^^^^ I agree but #3 in the AFC East and going backwards and the problems with the QB and front office re not going to go away and get better. Jimmy Johnson won back to back Super Bowls and got fired because the owner and him couldn't co-exist under 1 team. Flores is not on his level or near. He is not the coach to take on the Bills and Patriots who are going to be the best 2 teams in the division for a while and normally a #3 spot in the division won't make the playoffs. It took the owner 3 years to figured out he wasn't it.
Rooney rule is a bad rule and insulting for all races of coaches. You pick the best doctor to operate on you, not go through a checklist of black doctors then go back to the original one, your choice, your pick that will operate on you. Some owners and GM can pretend and go through the process of talking for 4 hours per candidate but at some point you can tell they already have their pick and this is just a process and it's insulting to all parties.
^^^^^ I agree but #3 in the AFC East and going backwards and the problems with the QB and front office re not going to go away and get better. Jimmy Johnson won back to back Super Bowls and got fired because the owner and him couldn't co-exist under 1 team. Flores is not on his level or near. He is not the coach to take on the Bills and Patriots who are going to be the best 2 teams in the division for a while and normally a #3 spot in the division won't make the playoffs. It took the owner 3 years to figured out he wasn't it.
Rooney rule is a bad rule and insulting for all races of coaches. You pick the best doctor to operate on you, not go through a checklist of black doctors then go back to the original one, your choice, your pick that will operate on you. Some owners and GM can pretend and go through the process of talking for 4 hours per candidate but at some point you can tell they already have their pick and this is just a process and it's insulting to all parties.
Bingo…and Rooney has all but forced himself to hire a black coach no matter the circumstances, which would suit many greatly if he can find another coach when Tomlin is gone hopefully sooner than later. Many are hoping Tomlins wings get clipped with a new GM and also calling all defensive plays. He’s had final personnel approval and that includes in the draft. With Colbert stepping down after the draft so many are hoping Tomlins input is greatly lessened.
I just find it hilarious that now he’s throwing out the tanking allegation. Why didn’t he mention it before, and since he didn’t it obviously means it’s not true, or he valued his paycheck more than making the allegation before he cried racism.
Because he can’t claim he was a victim, as a black man making 8 figures coaching in the NFL, even if he was being asked to tank.
If his goal is to get paid more than he did coaching, that’s not going to work. If his goal is to get more black coaches hired to the level that appeases the woke radical leftists, that’s not going to work either.
Because he can’t claim he was a victim, as a black man making 8 figures coaching in the NFL, even if he was being asked to tank.
If his goal is to get paid more than he did coaching, that’s not going to work. If his goal is to get more black coaches hired to the level that appeases the woke radical leftists, that’s not going to work either.
If he thinks he’s going to get paid more than he does in coaching by crying racism and accusing ownership of offering him money to tank if he doesn’t have proof, he’s clueless or has all the money he wants, because his NFL coaching career is over, unless an owner wants to offer him a lesser coaching job, and he likely won’t accept it.
That's not my division. My is AFC North but Flores and his problems in Miami weren't getting better. He is not the coach to take on the Bills and the Patriots in the division and ending on his 3rd year at #3 in the division is not going to cut it.
That was an obvious declined: last year the offense scored 404 points and allowed 330 points(and didn't make the playoffs) then this year they went backwards with scoring 341 and allowed 373. That's 63 points scoring difference backwards and allowing -43 allowing points backwards.
The owner saw it wasn't going to get better and Flores had to go. If Flores was white this wouldn't be news.
This is a flat out lie. Winning 9 or 10 games doesn’t get ANY coach fired in their 3rd year. It doesn’t happen but if it did the sports media would have the same reaction.
Miami started 1-7 and ended the season 8-1. You don’t fire a head coach with that type of momentum to end a season. Miami is still ahead of schedule given their “tank for Tua” campaign. Everyone knew it was happening because they had a name for it.
Matt Rhule is going into his 3rd year and is 10-23. That is grounds for being fired.
^^^^^ I agree but #3 in the AFC East and going backwards and the problems with the QB and front office re not going to go away and get better. Jimmy Johnson won back to back Super Bowls and got fired because the owner and him couldn't co-exist under 1 team. Flores is not on his level or near. He is not the coach to take on the Bills and Patriots who are going to be the best 2 teams in the division for a while and normally a #3 spot in the division won't make the playoffs. It took the owner 3 years to figured out he wasn't it.
Rooney rule is a bad rule and insulting for all races of coaches. You pick the best doctor to operate on you, not go through a checklist of black doctors then go back to the original one, your choice, your pick that will operate on you. Some owners and GM can pretend and go through the process of talking for 4 hours per candidate but at some point you can tell they already have their pick and this is just a process and it's insulting to all parties.
Going backwards? What are you talking about$ You are talking about the Dolphins like they owned the division and have NE’s postseason resume.
You have ti be delusional to think 2020 was a normal year for the AFC East. NE lost Brady and had like 6 or 7 key players sit out the year due to covid exemptions. Miami is right on schedule and more than likely ahead of schedule when it comes to expectations.
The owner even admitted Flores wasn’t fired because of wins and losses.
Bingo…and Rooney has all but forced himself to hire a black coach no matter the circumstances, which would suit many greatly if he can find another coach when Tomlin is gone hopefully sooner than later. Many are hoping Tomlins wings get clipped with a new GM and also calling all defensive plays. He’s had final personnel approval and that includes in the draft. With Colbert stepping down after the draft so many are hoping Tomlins input is greatly lessened.
It won’t be… lol. You guys just need to accept that Tomlin is here until he isn’t.
Lmao at acting like Tomlin has set the franchise back. Same thing happened with Cowher. Fans hated him for the lack of SB success and as soon as he finally won one he turned into a legend.
We already have a SB and another appearance with Tomlin but spoiled fans think its their right to be in every SB because of the 70’s. The franchise went 25 years without a SB win. Then we had another 3 years later and another appearance 3 years after that.. yet Steeler fans whine about failure.
Once we win another SB you guys will move the goal post and have another reason why Tomlin is awful. Then once he retires and gets fitted for his gold jacket at Canton you guys will whine again.. or maybe you will finally admit he was great since he is no longer the coach.
But we all know what really motivates Steeler fans hate for Tomlin
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