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The bottom line is that covid numbers are being manipulated, and are inflated for reporting purposes, as well as reimbursement (bonus) purposes. Hospitals are enriched by covid reimbursements.
I do not get info from any of those. I do not watch the networks; almost no TV at all.
I use print articles to find studies and the read those.
I support YouTube and FB in their attempts to get rid of the covid misinformation. They are playing Whac-A-Mole, though.
If you're ever bored out of your head and want a project, please list what you perceive as covid "misinformation." It would be very interesting to see it all laid out, point-by-point.
I personally find the word "misinformation" troubling.
Isolation of an infected person is basic infection control.
Management of a person with covid on a vent is different. For example, they are frequently turned face down. Doing that to someone who is sedated with an endotracheal tube and tubes in every orifice requires four to six people. Some hospitals with multiple patients with covid on vents even have "proning teams". It does not take "the same amount of work".
Plenty of YouTube videos will show you the personnel needed for proning an intubated patient.
Hospitals do not get paid by Medicare on a per test basis. They get paid by diagnosis and severity. I would love to know where you get the idea that they get paid "faster with less paperwork" for covid cases.
We don't isolate every and all infected persons. And we don't need to be doing so for COVID anymore.
What you described would apply to any and all ventilated patients regardless if they are COVID or not.
And lastly:
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Two major legislative efforts passed at the onset of the pandemic in March 2020 – the Families First Coronavirus Response Act (FFCRA) and the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act – required health coverage for COVID-19 testing – including the test itself, the related visit, and other services related to testing – with no cost-sharing for people covered by most private health plans, Medicare, and Medicaid. Federal laws also made resources available to finance free testing for uninsured individuals.
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Federal guidance released in early 2021 under the Biden Administration clarified that insurers must cover testing without cost sharing for asymptomatic individuals and without requiring medical screenings.
What this means is the insurance company is required to pay the hospital for their COVID test. And they don't need to presume you have COVID to test you, and still get that money.
It also easily allows for fraud. Someone vented for bacterial pneumonia requires the same amount of work as someone vented for COVID (minus the requirement to isolate the person for COVID, something we don't need to be doing) but one gets them more money and faster payments with less paperwork.
It also incentivizes testing people with no symptoms so they can be coded as COVID. Their care will be the same, but more money will be attached.
Then hospitals make money from the tests, and a lot of it.
Here's a great article that shows how they are doing it. The labs, too. Since every patient MUST be tested. Some are making hundreds off EACH test.
Warren Goldstein was surprised when Austin Emergency Center, in Texas, charged him and his wife $494 upfront for two covid tests. He was shocked when the center billed insurance $1,978 for his test, which he expected would cost $100. His insurer paid $325 for “emergency services” for him, even though there was no emergency.
If you're ever bored out of your head and want a project, please list what you perceive as covid "misinformation." It would be very interesting to see it all laid out, point-by-point.
I personally find the word "misinformation" troubling.
I created a thread on misinformation vs just saying something is a lie.
It also easily allows for fraud. Someone vented for bacterial pneumonia requires the same amount of work as someone vented for COVID (minus the requirement to isolate the person for COVID, something we don't need to be doing) but one gets them more money and faster payments with less paperwork.
It also incentivizes testing people with no symptoms so they can be coded as COVID. Their care will be the same, but more money will be attached.
Then hospitals make money from the tests, and a lot of it.
This is absolute nonsense. Venting ANYONE in a hospital is a losing proposition for the hospital. On so many levels. It causes costs to skyrocket, it increases the risk of hospital acquired infection (which you get dinged for by the government) and mostly the morale of staff. Taking care of ventilated patients is physically, and emotionally taxing. In other word. It sucks for the patient and family, it sucks for the staff, and Doctors don't like the extra time they have to spend dealing with the complications either.
And for the thousandth time, the "bonus" money of taking care of COVID patients is likely eaten up by PPE alone.
And finally, hospitals DON'T make money from over testing because they are paid by the diagnosis. They are not paid fee for service and haven't been for about 40 years.
Actually, hospitals are caught in between trying to make money and trying to avoid litigation when it comes to testing.
This is absolute nonsense. Venting ANYONE in a hospital is a losing proposition for the hospital. On so many levels. It causes costs to skyrocket, it increases the risk of hospital acquired infection (which you get dinged for by the government) and mostly the morale of staff. Taking care of ventilated patients is physically, and emotionally taxing. In other word. It sucks for the patient and family, it sucks for the staff, and Doctors don't like the extra time they have to spend dealing with the complications either.
And for the thousandth time, the "bonus" money of taking care of COVID patients is likely eaten up by PPE alone.
And finally, hospitals DON'T make money from over testing because they are paid by the diagnosis. They are not paid fee for service and haven't been for about 40 years.
Actually, hospitals are caught in between trying to make money and trying to avoid litigation when it comes to testing.
No one is saying the hospitals are venting people for no reason, rather reclassifying vented people for other causes as COVID. Get it?
No one is saying the hospitals are venting people for no reason...
That is literally the claim being made in the video this thread is about. LITERALLY.
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