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When they opened the door they shouted "Police! Get your hands up!", etc.
Looks like a justified shoot to me. <shrug>
Why would anyone have a loaded gun by their bed?
When a person is in deep sleep and is awakened suddenly at the sound of a group of people entering their residence, what percentage of people would reach for a weapon?
You're missing the point. It's not the "what" it's the "why". Is the no knock warrant the problem or is it just the fact that it was done to a black person?
Is not the issue the use of no knock warrants?!
Primarily due to cases such as Breonna Taylor and this particular case, where innocent people lost their life.
Therefore, why should only BLM protest such incidents as this?
Really, there should be many additional organizations and individuals protesting that innocent people are losing their lives due directly to the use of no knock warrants.
Primarily due to cases such as Breonna Taylor and this particular case, where innocent people lost their life.
Therefore, why should only BLM protest such incidents as this?
Really, there should be many additional organizations and individuals protesting that innocent people are losing their lives due directly to the use of no knock warrants.
I agree
Didn’t Breonna get caught in a nighttime crossfire between her boyfriend and the cops (not only didn’t the cops know Breonna was in the crossfire they certainly didn’t hit her in the crossfire because she was black)? The (now defunct?) BLM scammers who ridiculously got involved discredited the entire protests.
And, the discrediting will continue with this case as long as the (now defunct?) BLM scammers grab headlines.
Wow the video if the mayor and chief is just absurd. It's a bunch of clowns running the show up there and I hope the citizens of the city hold them accountable.
In US policing, no knock warrants are like firearms: Way, way overused. An exceptional tool to be used in exceptional cases has become routine.
And as you yourself seem willing to at least start discussing, there can be a huge gap between "reasonable" and "within policy". At least, thanks to cameras, we're having the debate now. A lot of the body politic doesn't listen and won't read, but they can see.
I agree fully.
I don't know enough about this specific scenario to comment on whether the NKW was justifiable or not, which is why I haven't commented on it.
Likewise, I'm a conservative and don't like no knock warrants, and think they should be illegal or very, very, very seldom used. In fact, right now I can't think of a good reason to use them, but perhaps there MIGHT be a rare instance when they would be necessary. I just think that there are other ways to accomplish the arrest or search which don't endanger innocent lives.
Anyone that has read my post knows that I'm very conservative, and very pro-police, But this shooting was not justified in my book. I don't blame the officers on the scene, they did what they had to do so they could go home to there family.
The higher ups and judge that signed off on this warrant should spend the rest of there days in a cell IMHO.
No-Knock warrants should be banned at this point, they do more harm that good at this point.
fun fact: the derek chauvin trial judge is the one who signed the warrant.
It looks like he specifically signed a no knock warrant. I hope that PoS will have some irony coming his way.
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Originally Posted by MetroWord
Your conservative buddies all over the internet are saying good riddance armed murderer shot and killed by police while pointing gun at the police.
This case is disturbing to say the least because I sleep with the gun nearby. I have many conservative friends who sleep with the gun nearby, and they have pretty much collectively agreed that this was a justified shooting. And conservatives wonder why the rest of us think conservatives are racist.
Where is the NRA?
I am conservative on many issues and stand with Rand Paul in making these no knock warrants illegal.
I see other conservatives in this thread opposing it.
Democrats are in control where this occurred and have not yet made it illegal. They considered making it illegal in 2020 and declined.
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Originally Posted by SpeedThink
Why would anyone have a loaded gun by their bed?
When a person is in deep sleep and is awakened suddenly at the sound of a group of people entering their residence, what percentage of people would reach for a weapon?
10%
20%
over 50%
Doesn't matter. He wasn't violating the law.
The police nationwide do 70,000 no knock warrants a year, it is a miracle more aren't killed this way.
Anyone that has read my post knows that I'm very conservative, and very pro-police, But this shooting was not justified in my book. I don't blame the officers on the scene, they did what they had to do so they could go home to there family.
The higher ups and judge that signed off on this warrant should spend the rest of there days in a cell IMHO.
No-Knock warrants should be banned at this point, they do more harm that good at this point.
The main job of police, unlike their claims, is NOT to go home at the end of the shift. It's to protect and serve the public, which means taking some amount of risk. In my mind, it would be better to have dead police than dead citizens killed by mistake and poor training. Now, it's good that everyone is still alive at the end of their shift, but police emphasize that over protecting and preserving the lives of the public.
The main job of police, unlike their claims, is NOT to go home at the end of the shift. It's to protect and serve the public, which means taking some amount of risk. In my mind, it would be better to have dead police than dead citizens killed by mistake and poor training. Now, it's good that everyone is still alive at the end of their shift, but police emphasize that over protecting and preserving the lives of the public.
That's an easy thing for you to say while sitting in your comfortable chair, behind a keyboard.
Like I said I don't blame the officers in the field, they did what they had to do. The Judge who signed off on this warrant show hang in my opinion.
NK warrants should be completely banned, they are a 3rd world shat hole tactic, that has no place in American society.
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