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Old 02-04-2022, 11:42 AM
 
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I'm more surprised people expect anything [b]but[b] propaganda.
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Old 02-04-2022, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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BLS count did not suddenly change when Biden became President, it was done the same way when Trump was President and prior....

And when Trump was president, there were people complaining about this and more just the same.



Maybe they should just give us the raw numbers, and not try to interpret or decorate them for us.
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Old 02-04-2022, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Oops, you just popped James Bond's daily Brandon balloon.
Plus, Traitor Joe has done his part to double the covid death numbers that Trump had.

Last edited by Tall Traveler; 02-04-2022 at 12:50 PM..
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Old 02-04-2022, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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That happens every January.

Every January shows an unadjusted number of job losses. That is because every January, companies purge people from their payrolls who haven't actually worked for the company for some months; people working on contracts have their jobs ending at the end of the year (that happened to me once); people working seasonal jobs for Christmas have their jobs end; and similar reasons.

When the BLS does their seasonal adjustments, they compensate for that. So when they say that X jobs were created in the seasonally-adjusted numbers for January, what that means is that X jobs fewer than usual for January were lost.

If the unadjusted number of January losses was smaller than usual this year resulting in a larger unadjusted-adjusted gap, is probably because there is a labor shortage, and thus, fewer people in the categories I listed above were let go from their jobs at the end of the year.

But once again ... this phenomenon happens every January.
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Old 02-04-2022, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The numbers have been all over the map of late because of the difficulties presented by the pandemic. All one needs to do is use their own eyes. This is the best labor market we have ever seen and the revisions are beginning to capture that. There are job openings everywhere and at wages that would have seemed impossible two years ago for the bottom rung.
Really. For instance, the Salt Lake City unemployment rate is clear down to 1.3%. That is just amazing because many people want to move there because of the awesome mountain scenery.
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Old 02-04-2022, 11:48 AM
 
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ADP was off the entire time Trump was President and undercounted his Administration too. Yet no questioning.

BDS is just as unflattering as TDS
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Old 02-04-2022, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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In fact, the 6,612,000 jobs added in Biden's first full year are more than all of the jobs added in Trump's first three years.

Biden first full year: 6,612,000 jobs
Trump's first 3 full years: 6,500,000 jobs

Source once again is here, downloading the spreadsheet:
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0..._view=net_1mth
it's still cherry-picking.

Are as many people employed today as there were January 2020? Were more people employed Jan '20 than Jan '17?

but y'all sell hard. Right now, the consumer ain't buyin Biden's economic story

https://www.fxempire.com/macro/unite...mer-confidence

5 times under Trump, consumer confidence broke the 100 barrier (not seen since before Obama).
Consumer confidence PEAKED in February 2020. Then Covid.

Biden enjoyed a "honeymoon" from March through July, with an April peak of 88 - American Rescue Plan stimmy checks. Since July, the peak is 73.
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Old 02-04-2022, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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ADP is not "Trump supporters". A thread that got a grand total of 22 responses, despite the "liberal tears" around here that this is some "right wing site". 4 of those 22 were from JamesBond007
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Old 02-04-2022, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Yep, I trust ADP which has tremendous real-time payroll information for it's report much more than government propaganda.

34% of the job gains were in restaurants in hotels while motor vehicles and parts employment plunged 4,900 and construction jobs down 5,000 due to Biden-inflation.

I don't believe those leisure and hospitality numbers at all. Many restaurants were closed for weeks during Joe Biden's COVID surge.

I trust ADP numbers much more than government propaganda.

It's very concerning that a legitimate private company that tracks payrolls reports massive job loses and the government propaganda BLS says there were huge job gains.

Interesting, how leisure and hospitality made up 151,000 of those gains but goods-producing sectors of the economy were up only 4,000.

I don't believe that 151,000 more people were working in leisure and hospitality when many restaurants had to close because of the surging COVID cases that Biden/Walensky failed to get under control.

Also, with Biden-inflation construction was down 5,000 jobs


https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.b.htm
But this is 2022. It is a matter of fact that bars and restaurants closed in 2020, but many were permitted to reopen before the end of 2020.
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Old 02-04-2022, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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let me get this straight...a crap ton of jobs were added. but the unemployment rate still ticked up.


meaning:


a) wayfair has great prices
b) did you see what Beth Dutton did?
c) more jobs were lost than added.
d) I like biscuits




And the rate of participation fell over so slightly to a new historical low.


Before you order that buttercreme icing cake, understand what these numbers mean. yes, it was not as big of a loss as it was thought to be. but it was a loss nonetheless.
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