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Originally Posted by johnwk1
And state law prohibits child abuse. The Governor's Executive Order is designed to allow parents of children, and not a school board, to make a decision which involves possible child abuse.
Why do you have a problem with that?
And this line about child abuse is the line that those opposed to the masks have used as a rallying cry just like crying CRT to rile up the base. There are just as many that want the masking in place and not just parents but those who work in the schools and have to be exposed to these children.
Following the CDC as a guideline is a far better informed source than the latest Breitbart article of social media post.
I just finished up a comparison of two school districts in preparation for speaking to our Board of Ed. Ours here in NJ, with the mask mandate, and Hillsborough County, FL.
Hillsborough County implemented a mask mandate for their kids as they headed back to school. Florida was experiencing a wave of Covid cases. On August 23rd, Hillsborough saw 607 cases in their schools (0.26 % of their student body). Their numbers followed the same downward trajectory seen across the state, both in schools and in the community, and by October 11th, they reported 43 cases. Then, horror of horrors, Governor Desantis issued a directive that there would be no more mask mandates. Hillsborough then implemented a policy where parents could opt their kids out by simply signing a form.
Well, guess what? Not only did the world not come to an end, but cases continued on their downward trend, with numbers on November 1st at 13, and no cases reported on November 21st or 22nd. The numbers remained flat until school ended for winter break. By December 31st, cases had climbed to 97 - 0.04%, so still a small fraction, but rising from statistically zero, and eleven days after the New Year, cases hit a high of 821 (0.35%) for their students, before beginning to drop again at the end of the month.
Now onto NJ, where we still have our mandates. At the same point in August, we had 4 cases. Adjusted as a percentage for our much smaller student population - 0.16%. (Keep in mind, our NJ district doesn't start school until after Labor Day. Just giving a beginning comparison.) We had one case after school started. By October, we had only seen two cases. Statistical zero! Mask success!! Well, not quite. By mid December, just like Hillsborough, our cases started to climb. December 18th saw five cases (0.2%) By December 31st, we were seeing double digits. Twenty cases, headed into the holidays - 0.8%. Eleven days after returning to school from winter break, we had 14 cases (0.56%). Gradually, just like Hillsborough, our numbers declined.
Looking at the info as a graphed curve, we follow the exact same pattern, but one school mandated masks, and one didn't. The big surges came as families gathered for the holidays, not because schools gave kids and parents a choice on masking.
If these parents were truly concerned about Covid for their kids and their families, maybe instead of whining about masks in schools and denying the science, they should think twice about what they are doing OUTSIDE of schools.
School boards do NOT care. It's a futile exercise.
Like saying, hey, that the wife beater? He just smacks her around a little. It's not so bad. They're talking it out. It should get better. He promised to think about it. And he smacks her around some more. No really, they're going to talk tomorrow. And he smacks her around some more. He's taiking about going to counseling. And he smacks her around some more.
You can't talk. You need to GET OUT. That's the only way to remedy the situation.
Imagine if 50% of kids missed a week of school. What message does that send? No. Money. Huge. Game changer.
Even the kids are protesting this non science mandate crap!
With all the restrictions, mandates, and control coming from the government at numerous levels, this study from Johns Hopkins University finds a collective impact of less than 1% on the Covid-19 death rate. Actually, saying it’s around 1% is generous. The real number they came up with was an improvement of… 0.2%.
The study goes on to point out how devastating the government mandates were for children.
But hey, people with common sense knew this a long time ago.
Just what is the "science" on government Covid mandates?
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Originally Posted by swilliamsny
If these parents were truly concerned about Covid for their kids and their families, maybe instead of whining about masks in schools and denying the science, they should think twice about what they are doing OUTSIDE of schools.
"A recent NPR report quotes a Maryland mother who complains that you risk being tarred as "a psychotic, anti-vax right-winger" if you dare to question whether children should be forced to wear face masks in day care and K-12 schools. That attitude is based on the premise that rejecting mask requirements is tantamount to rejecting science.
"A recent NPR report quotes a Maryland mother who complains that you risk being tarred as "a psychotic, anti-vax right-winger" if you dare to question whether children should be forced to wear face masks in day care and K-12 schools. That attitude is based on the premise that rejecting mask requirements is tantamount to rejecting science.
The truth is closer to the opposite."
I suggest you read the article.
JWK
The mask-nannies are denying the science that says no mask mandates are needed, and that cloth masks worn by children are ineffective.
Just in case you thought I was saying the opposite. Cases exploded when kids were out of school visiting family or vacationing. The end of the mask mandates in Florida didn't matter. Their cases still followed the same trajectory as ours here in NJ, where we have mandates.
Just in case you thought I was saying the opposite. Thanks for the link, though. Will help in the fight to unmask our kids.
Oh, for some others on here, I sub in our schools and can tell you for a fact that at least half the teachers and staff want the masks gone, they're just not allowed to say so publicly.
With all the restrictions, mandates, and control coming from the government at numerous levels, this study from Johns Hopkins University finds a collective impact of less than 1% on the Covid-19 death rate. Actually, saying it’s around 1% is generous. The real number they came up with was an improvement of… 0.2%.
The study goes on to point out how devastating the government mandates were for children.
But hey, people with common sense knew this a long time ago.
As you read it you'll find that it is authored by 3 Professors of Economics, great medical insight. At just over 60 pages I'm sure it will put most people asleep. I'll pass on this as having any validity because these 3 are basing it on numbers that they ran and not any thing medical. I'll stick to the CDC guidelines on best practices and I accept that those are always changing as more is learned and the disease continues to morph.
Parents politicizing this has been far more devastating to children but common sense seems to have left many these days.
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Johns Hopkins Study confirms gov. covid mandates were worse than the disease
