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Old 02-06-2022, 12:47 PM
 
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Yes, but they're still responding to market forces. All a boycott is is saying out loud why you're no longer buying something, and encouraging others to do the same. I don't think there is anything wrong with threatening to boycott Walmart to try to stop them from selling goods made by literal slaves, regardless of whether most customers don't care. I'm not forcing Walmart to do anything, they're choosing to do it because they would rather keep my money.

Prior to the American Revolution, they were encouraging Americans to boycott British goods and boycott companies that sold British goods. They weren't shutting the businesses down, but the businesses realized that selling British goods was a liability so they stopped.

That isn't against the free market. Raiding ships and dumping tea into the water would be, but boycotts aren't.
I have no problems with boycotts. Like I said earlier, a boycott is one personal decision. It may lead to one thousand personal decisions that create one thousand boycotts, or it may go higher. But the problem for activists is that a boycott takes too long to bear fruit. Rogan have 11 million daily consumers. Spotify is one. For activists, the choice is clear: target the platform, specifically CEO Daniel Ek. THIS is anti free market.
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Old 02-06-2022, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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So you admit we are living in a tech monopoly?
Remember all those regulations the republicans have removed from businesses since Reagan started the ball rolling so they could operate without interference? This is the end result of having little to no oversight. A couple of dozen people at most control everything that is published. The only way to moderate it at this point is Teddy Roosevelt-style trust busting party and breaking up the largest companies to allow for competition to get a foothold..

Always be careful what you ask for.
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Old 02-06-2022, 01:33 PM
 
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No one is "silencing" Rogan. He is free to find an outlet that will better support his views. This is no different from Fox News "silencing" liberal commentators; have you ever seen them invite Rachel Maddow to give her opinions? Or CNN inviting Tucker Carlson to present his views?

Media platforms choose who they want to promote, who will bring in the ad revenues and the viewership. Here in the USA $$$ end up deciding who gets the bully pulpit.
They knew all about him and what his podcast was when they gave him the 100 mil contract. He's the hottest thing in media now and Spotify has him. They would be nuts to dump him.
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Old 02-06-2022, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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what's stopping him from posting on his own website?
Probably his contract with Spotify (at least podcasts)
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Old 02-06-2022, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Would the world be better or worse off if Rogan himself got deleted?
According to my neighbor, way better off with out Joe Rogan. My neighbor is bigfoot, and he is tired of the paparazzi.
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Old 02-06-2022, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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I have no problems with boycotts. Like I said earlier, a boycott is one personal decision. It may lead to one thousand personal decisions that create one thousand boycotts, or it may go higher. But the problem for activists is that a boycott takes too long to bear fruit. Rogan have 11 million daily consumers. Spotify is one. For activists, the choice is clear: target the platform, specifically CEO Daniel Ek. THIS is anti free market.
Neil Young boycotted Spotify by removing his music, afterwards others artists followed suit. Then individuals cancelled their subscriptions and told Spotify they wouldn't support a company that propagates misinformation. So Spotify took down some of Joe Rogan videos.

At what point in that story does it become anti-free market? When you don't agree with it? Rofl.


"It's fine if you stop using a product. But if you encourage your friends to not use a product, that is against the free market."

That is what you sound like.
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Old 02-06-2022, 01:53 PM
 
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Paid trolls targeting Rogan.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/0...filled-thread/

That being said the posts and/or vids are there.
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Old 02-06-2022, 02:43 PM
 
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Paid trolls targeting Rogan.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/0...filled-thread/

That being said the posts and/or vids are there.
This needs it's own thread. Entirely different topic.
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Old 02-06-2022, 02:49 PM
 
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Paid trolls targeting Rogan.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/0...filled-thread/

That being said the posts and/or vids are there.
To reference a video shared by @RedShadowz a couple of pages back, this is the pincer movement discussed by J Edward Griffin in 1969. The communist strategy is to apply political pressure above and below. The above pressure comes from government officials (Biden calling on Spotify to "do more", Obama calling to censor etc.). The pressure from below comes from the mass psychosis crowd that may not even know they are being used, to create the appearance of popular support. Paid trolls fall perfectly into this plan, funded by a DNC SuperPAC no less.

The common man (silent majority) is trapped in the middle and begins to feel that they are isolated in the minority, and ultimately bows down to the pressure. I feel the squeeze they are putting on Joe and Spotify right now, I can't imagine being the target.

You have to hand it to the communists; their attack strategy usually works and destroys or discredits their enemies, but it must be a miserable existence. Is this why Republicans refuse to fight back? Out of fear of being next.

Thank you for sharing this link, as they go on to say, it's about POWER. They who can bring down a giant like Rogan will get the clout and money.

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Old 02-06-2022, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Is this why Republicans refuse to fight back? Out of fear of being next.
Not just Republicans, everyone. They'll get you fired, they'll threaten your advertisers, they'll get you deplatformed, they'll dox you, you'll get death threats, they'll even come to your house. They'll boycott your business, and harass your customers. And even if they don't do it to you, they'll do it to other people, and you'll see it. You know what is coming, so you learn to keep your head down. Even when you disagree you're too afraid to speak up, especially if you're a kind and agreeable person.

Eventually people become completely demoralized.


"If dissenters are punished, and can anticipate they are going to be punished, then you might have a situation where no one actually believes something, but everyone believes that everyone else believes it." - Steven Pinker
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