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Old 02-05-2022, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Will they trace the revolver that was stolen from me in 1986?
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Old 02-05-2022, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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There is only one reason you would make a registry.



Yeah and couple that with ones political affiliations and lo to the person that might have made a contribution to Trump because you are going to be raided first.





When it comes to guns it is always the law abiding owners that pay the price by having to jump through hoops, pay fees, be licensed etc.. when it is actually the law less that are causing all the problems.



If only the ATF would go after the outlaws first.
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Old 02-05-2022, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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If only the outlaws were unable to get guns.
Someone is making money selling guns to outlaws.
It sure would be nice to know.

Guns must grow on trees.
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Old 02-05-2022, 04:14 PM
 
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If only the outlaws were unable to get guns.
Someone is making money selling guns to outlaws.
It sure would be nice to know.

Guns must grow on trees.

People who sell guns to outlaws are also outlaws. See how it's a closed loop? Why are we going after the law abiding gun owner again? That's not where the problem is.
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Old 02-05-2022, 04:20 PM
 
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Doing this will only make ghost guns more popular. Sounds counterproductive
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Old 02-05-2022, 04:30 PM
 
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The camel's nose is VERY far under the tent flap in the hidden task of creating a nationwide gun registry in violation of Federal law.

Federal law says that people buying a gun from a dealer must fill out Federal Form 4473, and that the dealer must keep all such forms at their stores. The 4473 forms cannot be reproduced or used to create a gun-ownership registry. But if the dealer ever goes out of business and/or turns in their Federal Firearms License (FFL), he must send all the 4473s to the government.

Now apparently the government (ATF) is scanning these forms and storing the info in a database... and they are scanning them in such a way that it would be very easy to use the database as a gun registry.

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https://www.ammoland.com/2022/01/atf...#axzz7K39BKCvP

ATF Keeping 920+ Million Firearm Records with Almost All Digitized

Posted on January 31, 2022
by John Crump
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[T]he Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) acknowledged it has over 920 million firearms records, (920,664,765 records).

"Aditionaly, almost 866 million of your personal firearms transaction records have been scanned and digitized out of the nearly one billion records."

Remember the Federal 4473 form that you complete when you purchase a gun at a retail gun shop or big-box retailer like Walmart includes such personal data as your full name, address, phone numbers, date of birth, social security number, race, sex, and even your weight. Your certification that you are not on drugs or alcohol. [Hello Hunter Biden] As well as all the unique identifying information of the firearm you are buying or transferring at the time you complete the form including the manufacture, make, model, caliber, and serial number.

But this is NOT a gun registry… according to the ATF. In the letter, ATF assures us they do “not capture and store certain key information, such as firearms purchaser information, in an automated file” and “ATF is confident that it does not violate any laws.”

By federal law, the ATF cannot create a gun registry, but all the building blocks for a future registry are falling into place especially with the scanning of documents.


Don't believe them at all.
Abuse of power is all too common these days.
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Old 02-05-2022, 04:31 PM
 
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Good for them. Good luck trying to confiscate them.

https://www.nssf.org/articles/nssf-r...uyers-in-2021/

Keep buying, including plenty of ammo, and don't forget your AR-15. Everyone should have one!
One is none, two is one.
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Old 02-05-2022, 04:36 PM
 
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Don't believe them at all.
Abuse of power is all too common these days.

Maybe the ATF feels like it's their turn to abuse its power. I mean "everyone's doin it!"
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Old 02-05-2022, 04:38 PM
 
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Maybe the ATF feels like it's their turn to abuse its power. I mean "everyone's doin it!"
Again?
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Old 02-05-2022, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Well in our favor, the fed govt is utterly incompetent at everything it does ...
That's what they want us to believe. Because if they were competent, we might hold them accountable.

Now, we just shrug our shoulders, and let them get away with stealing the country.

The federal government owns around 640 million acres of land (about 28 percent) of the 2.27 billion acres of land in the United States. That's pretty good, for a government only allowed 10 square miles and other "needful buildings and forts".
Why not sell it all off, and retire the public debt - and stop taxing?
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