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Old 05-01-2022, 12:40 PM
 
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Yes, the virtue signaling facial decorations are and were largely a waste of time....but honestly anyone with a fully functioning brain already knew that.

 
Old 05-01-2022, 12:45 PM
 
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Same with my husband and I. Someone should study why we didn't ever get it
Yeah. They don't WANT to know. Tell me why I didn't catch covid from living with my husband? Wore an N95 mask at home? Social distanced from him? Did not eat meals and sleep with him? ONLY ME? Hell, no. We have read about public figures with covid where their spouses and children didn't catch it from them either.

Medicine doesn't care. Too much trouble. Maybe if they did do studies they could create a BETTER VACCINE?
 
Old 05-01-2022, 01:46 PM
 
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Hilarious. It was the Democrats who politicized the pandemic since Day. One. because they saw an opportunity to beat Trump in the 2020 election.

All of this has been demonstrated and proven. From letting the teachers unions write CDC guidelines to the anti-science mask mandates, everything the left did was due to politics, not "public health."

Biden's Ministry of Truth should censor your post because it is 100% disinformation.
^^^ And B.S.

Around America, the GOP’s cynical insistence on making pandemic policy into a partisan, political, culture-war issue, instead of a medical one, has literally cost lives.

Every month brings additional confirmation of the basic truths about the pandemic that have long been obvious to all except those consuming the disinformation of the Trumpian right: Vaccines work. Masks work. Conspiracy theories don’t.

Last month, a new CDC study confirmed that masks prevent illness---what a shocker
A study of Arkansas school districts found that those with full mask requirements had a 23 percent lower incidence of covid-19 among students and staff compared to districts with no mask requirements. Those with partial mask requirements were in between, and those that switched from no mask to masks had reduced illness.


Let's all recall, for the disgraced and defeated former POTUS it was not the United States, but Red & Blue states. It was Donald Trump who viewed the country as being composed of parts that either are for him or against him. From the White House/Oval Office he went to political, verbal, and twitter war on governors and states who were following the guidance of the NIH and the CDC. He actually mocked and threatened those who were utilizing the advice of our nation's highly regarded and eminently qualified scientists and professionals from our world renowned public health institutions.

Now that the omicron wave is over, a couple of new analyses of state-by-state data both point to an inescapable conclusion: Living in states run by a Republican governor is dangerous to your health.

Using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, a study published last month showed that since July 1 ---when the lifesaving vaccine was widely available--- the 14 states with the highest death rates were all run by Republican governors. This included Florida (at about 153 deaths per 100,000 residents), Ohio (142 deaths per 100,000), Arizona (138) and Georgia (134). Contrast that with the deep-blue District of Columbia (only 27 deaths per 100,000) and California (58 per 100,000).

The Washington Post, before reporting on that study had a health-care analyst run the numbers using data ---mostly from Johns Hopkins--- and found similar results. The 16 states with the highest coronavirus death rates since July 1 were all run by Republicans. The worst was West Virginia ----about 204 deaths per 100,000--- followed closely by Oklahoma, Tennessee, Wyoming and as mentioned Florida.

Elections have consequences, and one consequence of electing Republican officials around America who were willing to side against science--- in their efforts to pander to their anti-science base--- has been unnecessarily high coronavirus death rates in Trump named red-state America. That’s the inescapable conclusion of several studies based on data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The map of comparisons between deaths per 100,000 residents in each state looks tragically like a red-blue political map of the country.

At the risk of being redundant, it was Donald Trump's GOP and his minions who intentionally, from the get go of the pandemic, turned our global public health crisis into a partisan political issue and people unnecessarily died.

For instance in GOP-dominated Missouri, where the governor publicly downplayed masking and the state attorney general sued to prevent schools from enforcing pandemic restrictions, the coronavirus death rate was 20% higher than the rate next door in Democratic-controlled Illinois.

There's Missouri, with 113 deaths per 100,000, while neighboring Illinois had just 90. There’s deep-red Florida --- where Republican Gov. DeSantis made attacks on responsible pandemic policies a focal point of his presidential desires --- with 152 deaths per 100,000. As for New York and California, as I previously mentioned 70 and 58 deaths per 100,000, respectively.

The states with the lowest death rates, by contrast, were all run by Democrats — or, in the case of Vermont, Maryland and Massachusetts, by moderate Republican governors who had heavily Democratic legislatures and embraced vaccines and masks. The best jurisdictions were D.C., Vermont, Hawaii and California. Looking at data from the period since May 1 ---by which time all U.S. adults theoretically could have been vaccinated--- produced similar results.

Florida residents were, since vaccines have been widely available, nearly seven times as likely to die from covid-19 as residents of D.C., nearly three times as likely to die as residents of California and 2½ times as likely to die as residents of New York. With Florida’s population of about 22 million, that’s a lot of unnecessary deaths.

This won’t be America’s last pandemic. But with data like this in hand, it should be the last in which people who care more about politics than public health are allowed to hold sway.

New CDC report includes study of Arkansas school mask mandates
https://www.ualrpublicradio.org/loca...-mask-mandates
Quote:
"School districts with mask requirements were shown to have fewer COVID-19 cases according to research conducted by UAMS, the Arkansas Center for Health Improvement and the Department of Health."
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...tatracker-home

Trends in Number of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths in the US Reported to CDC, by State/Territory
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...ds_dailydeaths

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Disinformation is to blame
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...vid-death-rate

Last edited by corpgypsy; 05-01-2022 at 02:52 PM..
 
Old 05-01-2022, 03:01 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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^^^ And B.S.

Around America, the GOP’s cynical insistence on making pandemic policy into a partisan, political, culture-war issue, instead of a medical one, has literally cost lives.

Every month brings additional confirmation of the basic truths about the pandemic that have long been obvious to all except those consuming the disinformation of the Trumpian right: Vaccines work. Masks work. Conspiracy theories don’t.

Last month, a new CDC study confirmed that masks prevent illness---what a shocker
A study of Arkansas school districts found that those with full mask requirements had a 23 percent lower incidence of covid-19 among students and staff compared to districts with no mask requirements. Those with partial mask requirements were in between, and those that switched from no mask to masks had reduced illness.


Let's all recall, for the disgraced and defeated former POTUS it was not the United States, but Red & Blue states. It was Donald Trump who viewed the country as being composed of parts that either are for him or against him. From the White House/Oval Office he went to political, verbal, and twitter war on governors and states who were following the guidance of the NIH and the CDC. He actually mocked and threatened those who were utilizing the advice of our nation's highly regarded and eminently qualified scientists and professionals from our world renowned public health institutions.

Now that the omicron wave is over, a couple of new analyses of state-by-state data both point to an inescapable conclusion: Living in states run by a Republican governor is dangerous to your health.

Using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, a study published last month showed that since July 1 ---when the lifesaving vaccine was widely available--- the 14 states with the highest death rates were all run by Republican governors. This included Florida (at about 153 deaths per 100,000 residents), Ohio (142 deaths per 100,000), Arizona (138) and Georgia (134). Contrast that with the deep-blue District of Columbia (only 27 deaths per 100,000) and California (58 per 100,000).

The Washington Post, before reporting on that study had a health-care analyst run the numbers using data ---mostly from Johns Hopkins--- and found similar results. The 16 states with the highest coronavirus death rates since July 1 were all run by Republicans. The worst was West Virginia ----about 204 deaths per 100,000--- followed closely by Oklahoma, Tennessee, Wyoming and as mentioned Florida.

Elections have consequences, and one consequence of electing Republican officials around America who were willing to side against science--- in their efforts to pander to their anti-science base--- has been unnecessarily high coronavirus death rates in Trump named red-state America. That’s the inescapable conclusion of several studies based on data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The map of comparisons between deaths per 100,000 residents in each state looks tragically like a red-blue political map of the country.

At the risk of being redundant, it was Donald Trump's GOP and his minions who intentionally, from the get go of the pandemic, turned our global public health crisis into a partisan political issue and people unnecessarily died.

For instance in GOP-dominated Missouri, where the governor publicly downplayed masking and the state attorney general sued to prevent schools from enforcing pandemic restrictions, the coronavirus death rate was 20% higher than the rate next door in Democratic-controlled Illinois.

There's Missouri, with 113 deaths per 100,000, while neighboring Illinois had just 90. There’s deep-red Florida --- where Republican Gov. DeSantis made attacks on responsible pandemic policies a focal point of his presidential desires --- with 152 deaths per 100,000. As for New York and California, as I previously mentioned 70 and 58 deaths per 100,000, respectively.

The states with the lowest death rates, by contrast, were all run by Democrats — or, in the case of Vermont, Maryland and Massachusetts, by moderate Republican governors who had heavily Democratic legislatures and embraced vaccines and masks. The best jurisdictions were D.C., Vermont, Hawaii and California. Looking at data from the period since May 1 ---by which time all U.S. adults theoretically could have been vaccinated--- produced similar results.

Florida residents were, since vaccines have been widely available, nearly seven times as likely to die from covid-19 as residents of D.C., nearly three times as likely to die as residents of California and 2½ times as likely to die as residents of New York. With Florida’s population of about 22 million, that’s a lot of unnecessary deaths.

This won’t be America’s last pandemic. But with data like this in hand, it should be the last in which people who care more about politics than public health are allowed to hold sway.

New CDC report includes study of Arkansas school mask mandates
https://www.ualrpublicradio.org/loca...-mask-mandates
[i]
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...tatracker-home

Trends in Number of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths in the US Reported to CDC, by State/Territory
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...ds_dailydeaths

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Disinformation is to blame
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...vid-death-rate
Yawn.

The CDC and NPR are not reliable sources. They are political organizations that have nothing to do with science or public health. How sad that you still haven't figured it out yet.
 
Old 05-01-2022, 03:22 PM
 
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Last month, a new CDC study confirmed that masks prevent illness---what a shocker
A study of Arkansas school districts found that those with full mask requirements had a 23 percent lower incidence of covid-19 among students and staff compared to districts with no mask requirements. Those with partial mask requirements were in between, and those that switched from no mask to masks had reduced illness.
The CDC has a track record of publishing garbage studies which is why they continue to release redundant studies. Their previous ones get torn to shreds.

This Arkansas ecologic study does not adjust for vaccination or other school mitigation measures like class size or even tele-classrooms.

This study follows their infamous Arizona case study where the masked schools weren’t even open for the majority of the study So embarrassing they won’t mention it.

Here are some real studies:

1. https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817
2. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2029717
 
Old 05-01-2022, 04:10 PM
 
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I feel like it makes sense if you're sick and coughing and sneezing. I remember when i was a nurses aide in the hospital before covid we would wear a mask when we in a patient room that had the flu or Pneumonia.


I think the lock downs and wearing a mask everywhere was silly.
 
Old 05-01-2022, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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LA is one of the most dense areas in the US so saying that they had a higher rate than other areas isn't much of a scientific study. Anecdotes saying that you were around people and didn't come down with Covid doesn't equal data.

We know that N95 masks are very effective at screening, cloth and surgical masks and others not so much. Bad as it was in California it could always be worse without the mandate.
 
Old 05-01-2022, 04:19 PM
 
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LA is one of the most dense areas in the US so saying that they had a higher rate than other areas isn't much of a scientific study. Anecdotes saying that you were around people and didn't come down with Covid doesn't equal data.

We know that N95 masks are very effective at screening, cloth and surgical masks and others not so much. Bad as it was in California it could always be worse without the mandate.
Blind speculation is also not data.
 
Old 05-01-2022, 04:31 PM
 
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They were a waste of time for people who are able to think critically.

For people who weren't, they were a soothing placebo to their illogical hypochondria.
 
Old 05-01-2022, 04:57 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
LA is one of the most dense areas in the US so saying that they had a higher rate than other areas isn't much of a scientific study. Anecdotes saying that you were around people and didn't come down with Covid doesn't equal data.

We know that N95 masks are very effective at screening, cloth and surgical masks and others not so much. Bad as it was in California it could always be worse without the mandate.
No, we don't "know that N95 masks are very effective at screening." That's not true, as the N95 mandate in Germany proved.

Please stop spreading disinformation.
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