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View Poll Results: Should nurse salaries be capped by Congress?
yes 4 3.70%
no 104 96.30%
Voters: 108. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-12-2022, 10:31 AM
 
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If nurses make $250/hr then how much the doctors make?
(Mind you that to be a nurse one need HS diploma and 2 years nursing school. Not bad...)
We all pay for that.
True in the 70s. Tough to get an RN with community college anymore, very few spots.
Hospitals want BSN nurses and the training spots for them get priority in big hospitals.
Nursing is a very difficult degree.
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Old 02-12-2022, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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All I can say is, for the majority of your traveling nurses, they make the most, $100,000 a year, so I think that article is misleading. The ones that make $250,000 are probably private nurses for the elite and they are pretty much paid to keep quiet about all the stuff they see. Hush money if you will.

Either way, was researching some of this, and most nurses think this is the government's way of attacking women since most nurses are women.
I know a traveling nurse who makes more than $200,000 a year if she worked continuously which she does not.
The typical contract is 12-13 weeks. She works the overnight shift. She is mid 40’s and chose Traveling Nursing to pay for her children’s college education.

She does not pay union due, and lives in corporate apartments. Her health insurance ends with each contract. She has no pension, 401k, sick or vacation pay or opportunity for advancement or tuition reimbursement.


It’s necessary to add at least 35% to a nurse’s base comp to reach total comp to compare apples to apples.
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Old 02-12-2022, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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How many nurses in your town make 250/hr?
You are confusing what an agency might bill a hospital with the compensation of the traveling nurse.
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Old 02-12-2022, 10:42 AM
 
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Well there it is. Something does have to give and it would be a perfect time to usher in socialized medicine which was the plan all along when Obama drove up the cost of private healthcare insurance with his Obamacare debacle.
Obama did not drive up the cost of healthcare. It was going up every year for decades before.

In fact, the rate of increase slowed after the Affordable Health Care Act was passed, even while coverage was expanded (like allowing children to stay on their parent's plans until 26, for example).

Some private healthcare plans were pure garbage, and the insurance companies shut them down themselves, others corrected their policies and had no choice but to charge more because they were now actually covering their customers legitimately, instead of simply stealing from them.

One provision of the legislation was that companies had to actually pay out at least 70% of the premiums collected as benefits (allowing up to 30% to the company), and in the first year many people received refund checks! It shows how the insurance industry in general was gouging their customer base.

Nevertheless, healthcare costs go up every year, partly because MDs and ODs are paid so freakin' well (compared to professionals in other countries) and partly because the drug companies have free reign to charge whatever they want, even if it is price gouging, and partly because insurance companies will always make outrageous profits guaranteed.
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Old 02-12-2022, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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True in the 70s. Tough to get an RN with community college anymore, very few spots.
Hospitals want BSN nurses and the training spots for them get priority in big hospitals.
Nursing is a very difficult degree.
Seems some might use a broad brush to paint all nurses alike. In doing so they confuse CNAs, Nursing Assistants, LPNs with RNs and then RN specialties.
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Old 02-12-2022, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I agree, politicians forget that they work for us, not the other way around. Unlike nurses, the politicians aren’t worth what they are being paid.
No they aren't. And they are directly responsible for the high cost of living in areas and rise in taxes. Just look at all the officials in your area alone. You got the governors, senators, house of representatives, mayors, commissioners, city council, city managers, chief of police, fire, etc, and then you have their assistant equivalents, and then all the bells and whistles that go with it. And most got where they did because they were plucked out of the shadows by someone working for a very wealthy person who needed puppets to help him stay rich and powerful. But alas, let's all blame the nurse who just wanted to be independent and get off of welfare and be able to take care of her kids on her own merit.
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Old 02-12-2022, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Well there it is. Something does have to give and it would be a perfect time to usher in socialized medicine which was the plan all along when Obama drove up the cost of private healthcare insurance with his Obamacare debacle.
Under the ACA legislation, insurers could no longer deny or charge a higher premium to those with preexisting conditions.

The obesity rate in the US was 42.4 in 2019. The instance of severe obesity doubled to 9.2% over two years. An additional 30% of the US population is overweight.

Excess weight is a primary contributing factor to Diabetes, heart disease, stroke and some Cancers.

Come April, 2022, the ACA turns 12. Those who were age 40 are now 52 and more vulnerable to serious health issues. Diabetes is an epidemic in the US.

Trump campaigned in 2015/6 with the intention of repealing and replacing Obamacare with something wonderful that would take care of everybody and the government would pay for it. There was no daylight between this pitch and Bernie’s M4A, other than Bernie had a clue what it would cost.

We now know, Trump had no plan and politicians say a lot of stuff on the campaign trail.

What Trump did accomplish was a drastic change to the Republican narrative. Instead of repeal, it became repeal and replace and preexisting conditions would remain guaranteed issue meaning no one could be denied insurance or required to pay a higher premium due to a preexisting condition.

The only reasonable way to take a bite out of the cost of healthcare, thus insurance, is to make exception for the most common preventable preexisting condition, waist size. It could be done over time with notice. Give the masses the opportunity to lower risks and thus their premium when the choose to take control of their weight. That 75% of us are overweight/ obese, this would not be popular with the masses.

It’s easier for people to blame throw than take personal responsibility.
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Old 02-12-2022, 12:46 PM
 
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No they aren't. And they are directly responsible for the high cost of living in areas and rise in taxes. Just look at all the officials in your area alone. You got the governors, senators, house of representatives, mayors, commissioners, city council, city managers, chief of police, fire, etc, and then you have their assistant equivalents, and then all the bells and whistles that go with it. And most got where they did because they were plucked out of the shadows by someone working for a very wealthy person who needed puppets to help him stay rich and powerful. But alas, let's all blame the nurse who just wanted to be independent and get off of welfare and be able to take care of her kids on her own merit.
Agree, the main profession that needs a salary limit is government, all that you listed, especially Congress and the senate.
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Old 02-12-2022, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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During the pandemic, the hospital nurses are making more than primary care doctors.

We have all these primary care doctors (some md some od) that work in small clinics taking medicaid patients. These doctors make little money and are the ones always accepting new patients. In a pandemic, why not give them a crash course in nursing and get them to help out at the hospitals?

As for salary cap of nurses, it's only during the pandemic that we have this problem. If you manage the emergency well enough, you don't need legislation. We need more executive action, not legislative.
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Old 02-12-2022, 01:04 PM
 
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If their skillset commands such pay, then more power to them. I have no issue with it whatsoever.
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