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Old 02-16-2022, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Putin wants to build Russia back to the size it used to be. Additionally Ukraine has oil and they can dominant the world selling it.
No, this is not what is going on.

Putin opposes the USSR, while the people of Donbas do not. He has abandoned them so he can use the region to force Ukraine from joining NATO.

Then he pushes his neoliberal pack called the EEU with former Soviet states to help him and his neoliberal buds.
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Old 02-16-2022, 07:16 PM
 
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No, this is not what is going on.

Putin opposes the USSR, while the people of Donbas do not. He has abandoned them so he can use the region to force Ukraine from joining NATO.

Then he pushes his neoliberal pack called the EEU with former Soviet states to help him and his neoliberal buds.

Pretty much, only back in 2013 it was called "Customs Union" - that's the trade agreement Putin wanted to sign with Ukraine, and that's when the hell broke lose.

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Old 02-16-2022, 07:21 PM
 
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Why doesn't Russia just join NATO, that would be hilarious!
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Old 02-16-2022, 07:26 PM
 
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Why do we need a 30 country NATO? Globalism on the loose.
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Old 02-16-2022, 07:37 PM
 
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Why doesn't Russia just join NATO, that would be hilarious!

Was Russia ever invited?
If no, why not?
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Old 02-17-2022, 01:30 PM
 
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Don't feel bad. So are Biden and Blinken.
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Old 02-17-2022, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Just cause some idiot Russian says it, doesn't make it true. I guess you're another of Putin's pets here on city data lapping up all the crap he shoves down your throat.
Just because some Russian says it, doesn't make it wrong.

Were you this upset when America was expanding west and calling it "manifest destiny?" Or when we took out Qaddafi and Sadam, and tried to take out Castro? Who has the most foreign bases in the world? America.

We've done the exact same things Russia has done.
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Old 02-17-2022, 03:55 PM
 
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I really don't see how Ukraine joining NATO would be much different than the Cuban missile crises, other than having the roles reversed.
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Old 02-17-2022, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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anyone know what time the US does a false flag and blames in on Russia?


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Old 02-17-2022, 05:52 PM
 
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anyone know what time the US does a false flag and blames in on Russia?


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I think it starts right now. Ukrainian Nazi started heavy shelling on LDNR this morning. LDNR has no choice other than to answer. Will it escalate too far? Depends on what US/UK will command to Ukrainian Nazi.
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