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Old 02-13-2022, 06:05 PM
 
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Nothing changed. The only reason she changed her narrative is that she has a 4 and a 5 year old and the vaccines are coming down to kids under 5. See post #2 by thinkingandwondering here whom I rep'd.
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Old 02-13-2022, 06:10 PM
 
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Nothing changed. The only reason she changed her narrative is that she has a 4 and a 5 year old and the vaccines are coming down to kids under 5. See post #2 by thinkingandwondering here whom I rep'd.
The Omicron has changed the course of the Pandemic and thus the medical reactions and recommendations.
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Old 02-13-2022, 06:18 PM
 
Location: In a perfect world winter does not exist
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In another month any politician not named Trudeau will be completely done with masks and mandates. China and HK are in another universe and not to be counted.
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Old 02-13-2022, 06:23 PM
 
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The Omicron has changed the course of the Pandemic and thus the medical reactions and recommendations.
Vaccine mandates are still in place and being enforced in many, many places in the U.S.
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Old 02-13-2022, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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The Omicron has changed the course of the Pandemic and thus the medical reactions and recommendations.
no sir, it hasn't. It's changed the "experts" and political reactions. Yours included.

https://reason.com/2021/09/10/cnn-le...l-outdoor-ban/

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CNN's Leana Wen: The Unvaccinated Should Not Be Allowed To Leave Their Homes
"You have the option to not get vaccinated if you want," said the doctor. "But then you can't go out in public."
On September 10th. On that date, infections had already begun going down (Sept 1 actually). Hospitalizations and ICU's were below Jan '21. As described, Delta was less severe than Covid1/Alpha.

And I asked the question in a different thread - had the RATE of "bad outcomes" changed with Delta? Had children started getting hospitalized and dying at a measurably higher RATE? I can't imagine the issue was not clear.

And since Delta, we've gone back and forth over accurate antibody tests. Since then, you said "any day now". That was 5+ months ago. We still don't have them.

And I want to know - going back on this rate, and please quit dancing around:

Since June 2020 has the RATE of bad Covid outcome changed significantly? Are 65 yr olds and immune-compromised much LESS of hospitalizations and deaths, and suddenly < 17 yr olds significantly higher rates of deaths and hospitalizations?

I know the answer. You know the answer.
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Old 02-14-2022, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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The Omicron has changed the course of the Pandemic and thus the medical reactions and recommendations.
For adults. Kids were never high risk - even before Omicron, and studies showed that kid-to-adult transmission is low. Spread is mainly adult-to-adult, then adult-to-kid.
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Old 02-14-2022, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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I think what we’re going to see is a big push for the Covid pills. Pharmas are realizing that even a lot of adults are not on board with the boosters. Now they’ll say we all have to rush out and buy the pills instead. If they want to pivot to the drugs, they can’t continue to insist that the vaccine is the best way to go.

As for the trials with the 0 to 5 group, either something really nasty showed up, or they realize they’re not going to recoup their money because a lot of parents won’t vaccinate kids that young.
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Old 02-14-2022, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Wen is, was, and always will be a despicable person.
She is, absolutely smarmy.

Evil.
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Old 02-14-2022, 06:22 AM
 
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Another “expert” who has thoroughly discredited herself. Be gone paid liar.
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Old 02-14-2022, 06:24 AM
 
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As is typical of any cult, when there is no longer top down pressure to hold the narrative that these vaccines are "safe and effective", many rats will abandon ship.

Remember how there was a scientific consensus it was a zoonosis? Ignore the fact there was never a scientific consensus. What happened was Dr Fauci/Collins organized a hit piece in the lancet through Dazak claiming anyone who disagreed with them a "conspiracy theorist". Then scientists either fell in line or shut up. The few who spoke out, were labeled conspiracy theorists.

The same exact thing will happen with these vaccines, just will take more time.
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