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View Poll Results: Does anyone think Hillary could have spied on Trump without Obama's knowledge and help?
No- Obama knew and is an accomplice 76 96.20%
Yes- Obama had no idea and is not involved 3 3.80%
Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-13-2022, 04:38 PM
 
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Recent revelations have shown that Hillary hired computer and surveilance experts to eavesdrop and spy on donald trump in Trump Tower as well as the White House. Obviously, access to the White House is very difficult and is one of the most secure locations in DC. There is NO WAY that anyone could have gained access to the White House, installed electronics and bugging devices, and processed that information without a tremendous amount of help from the Obama admin and with direct knowledge from Obama.

So........................ is there ANYONE here who thinks that Hillary concocted the Russian hoax and then installed sureveilance equipment in the White House and on White House computers without Obama's knowledge?

Obviously not- Of course, this implies that Hillary and Obama colluded to spy on Trump, gain access to classified information, and attempt a removal of an elected president. In other words, both knowingly committed treason against the US.
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Old 02-13-2022, 06:20 PM
 
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I'm not sure. I have read part of Mr. Durham's charging instrument, but not the whole thing.

I will say this: If Ms. Clinton and her staff engaged in this activity, I think they should be charged and tried.

I know this seems odd to some: indict and try those that engage in illegal activity. I think any politician should be charged, if there is a basis for it. Trump, Obama, Clinton, whomever.

I guess the question must be asked: Since so many Trump supporters approved of then-President Trump using his Presidential Power of Pardon to pardon Manafort, Stone, et al, would these same people be upset if President Biden used that same power to pardon Hillary Clinton, etc?

The Rule of Law must be consistent.
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Old 02-14-2022, 06:25 AM
 
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I'm not sure. I have read part of Mr. Durham's charging instrument, but not the whole thing.

I will say this: If Ms. Clinton and her staff engaged in this activity, I think they should be charged and tried.

I know this seems odd to some: indict and try those that engage in illegal activity. I think any politician should be charged, if there is a basis for it. Trump, Obama, Clinton, whomever.

I guess the question must be asked: Since so many Trump supporters approved of then-President Trump using his Presidential Power of Pardon to pardon Manafort, Stone, et al, would these same people be upset if President Biden used that same power to pardon Hillary Clinton, etc?

The Rule of Law must be consistent.
It appears there is a document already that shows Obama was briefed on the plan prior to implementation.

We now KNOW that Obama and Hillary committed treason and espionage. It is just a matter of time now. The CIA and the FBI BOTH have the information on Hillary and Obama, but have done NOTHING.
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Old 02-14-2022, 06:37 AM
 
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Campaigns placing spies in the other's camp is a common tactic. So is oppositional research.

Breaking into offices and electronic devices has always been unacceptable.

And the law should apply to all. But some never get caught.
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Old 02-14-2022, 06:38 AM
 
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It's proven that he DID help or at least KNEW about it. https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...elligence.html
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Old 02-14-2022, 07:35 AM
 
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They all knew what was going on and worse is they were so smug about it because they knew that if they were caught they would never face prosecution. If caught the media would cover for them by downplaying their actions and distracting the audience with other news.



There was an interview with Obama during the 2016 campaign and Obama said that Trump would never be President. When he said it he came off as being so calculating, so cold, like he knew the fix was in. The way Obama said it I think Trump is lucky he got out of DC alive.



The likes of Obama and Hillary really are above the law.
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Old 02-14-2022, 07:38 AM
 
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If time us "regular people" stand up and stop this madness from both sides soon or we are going to be too far gone to save ourselves. Its time that we start holding even our own party accountable for their actions. Nobody should be allowed to be above the law. It doesn't matter what, where, when, how or who. NOBODY for NO REASON.
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Old 02-14-2022, 07:40 AM
 
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Define 'spied ' with or w/o anyone's help.
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Old 02-14-2022, 08:00 AM
 
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Campaigns placing spies in the other's camp is a common tactic. So is oppositional research.

Breaking into offices and electronic devices has always been unacceptable.

And the law should apply to all. But some never get caught.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dni...p-russia-probe

Ummmm............................. NIXON RESIGNED FOR THIS BEFORE HE WAS IMPEACHED!:smac k:

Also, Nixon did not hack the WHITE HOUSE COMPUTERS. This, of course, is espionage and treason. It is insane that liberals would suggest that an attempt to unseat an elected president is just "normal". Are dems that insane?

OBAMA WAS BRIEFED ON THIS OPERATION AND APPROVED IT. Who the hell else do you think authorized Hillary to "bug" the White House computers before he left?
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Old 02-14-2022, 08:01 AM
 
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Campaigns placing spies in the other's camp is a common tactic. So is oppositional research.

Breaking into offices and electronic devices has always been unacceptable.

And the law should apply to all. But some never get caught.
People fail to understand this-

THEY BUGGED AND HACKED THE WHITE HOUSE WHEN TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT.

Also, NIXON WAS FORCED TO RESIGN FOR FAR LESS.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dni...p-russia-probe

Above is the evidence that Obama knew about bugging the servers. One of the democrat moderators eliminated the other thread, as I am sure she is an Obama fan and can't accept the fact that he is a traitor to the nation.

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