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View Poll Results: If the government demanded we all put a chip in our bodies so they always know where we are, would y
No 162 89.50%
Yes 19 10.50%
Voters: 181. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-14-2022, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Supposedly in CA all new cars are sold with a tracking device installed in them by default. I don't mean the "on star" etc. An extra, addition gps tracker. You have to explicitly ask for it to be removed when buying it, if you even know they're putting it in there by default to ask.

Supposedly they are put in ie dashboards etc so it isn't a trivial cheap thing to take out.
Most new cars come with tracking.

I don’t think there is anything unique about California.

Given auto theft is an epidemic throughout the US, tracking helps recovery.



https://www.newsweek.com/new-data-re...ptible-1662673
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Old 02-14-2022, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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PSA of the day: all cell phones rat you out. smart or not. how do you think they know what cell you are in?


Your car likely rats you out, does it have onstar, built in GPS or any other link? it is read terrestrially.



got your ez pass in the window just driving around? anyone can read RFID.



check for unsolicited outbound router connections every time you add something to the network at home - ESPECIALLY wifi home security cameras.


and lastly, take apart your flatscreen TV that is 'smart' and tell me why it has at least one microphone inside it.


Do the 'purple LED' test I invented.


take 2 people with smart phones that have voice rec. turned on (all i-junk, most androids)


have the owners talk to another about buying purple LEDS. stress that you need to buy them and dont know where to get them.


From now on, the popup ads you get will include ones for parts express (et al) for.......purple LEDs


(hey they are great for adding accent lighting to about anything. force any AC PS to DC by using any tiny silicon diode and add a 1/4w 100ohm to 470 ohm (for 5-12v) inline resistor to keep forward current below 25ma and voila!)
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Old 02-14-2022, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Just West of Wonder
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No, of course not. Who would?
Apparently two sheep are up for it.
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Old 02-14-2022, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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Sounds reasonable to me. It would save the lives of countless missing children and the occasional senile oldster that hops in the Pontiac to run errands, but gets lost.

And if your spouse claims they are "working late at the office", when you suspect they are up to no good, wouldn't it be nice to prove where the really were?

I see a lot of benefits to this program with zero downside. When can we start?
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No. I already have a smart phone. There is no need.

there you go Buckeye77. Just allow all those apps on your smartphone to track you at all times. Don't have a smartphone? Go buy one.
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Old 02-14-2022, 08:01 AM
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Location: Europe
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No need for it, I am homebound or at a medical appointment if outside of house, is quite a group of persons same situation.
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Old 02-14-2022, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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That is how it will start. They will tell us that it is for public safety.



I think a chip should be put into certain felons like child molesters and rapists so they can be tracked.
Illegal aliens should also get a chip.



Nearly 2 million Illegals came across the border last year with nothing but their word as to who they are and a promise to come back for a hearing on whether they can stay or not. How many will actually go back to the immigration court? Stick them with a tracking device and if they do not return then track them down and ship them out.



Of course there are organizations that will protect the illegal aliens and felons from being chipped but they would push it for every citizen.
Who is “ they”? The big people?

SCOTUS unanimously concluded in 2012, US v Jones, that 24 hour tracking of a vehicle without a warrant to monitor the movement of a suspected drug trafficker violated 4 th amendment rights.

https://www.oyez.org/cases/2011/10-1259

Nonetheless, here you are speculating “ they” will seek to implant devices in your body.
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Old 02-14-2022, 08:10 AM
 
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Bible warns about these time in Revelations.
Bible warns us not to eat bacon.
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Old 02-14-2022, 08:12 AM
 
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Nope, wouldnt do it, not that it matters anyway since I have my phone on me all the time.
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Old 02-14-2022, 08:16 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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I'd take a hard pass on a chip implant, but the government can already pretty much figure out where we are from our devices and various sensors, combined with AI.
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Old 02-14-2022, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Reading these comments about smartphones, I have never had one and don't intend to ever get one. This was NOT because I was afraid of government spying, but because the technology turned me off, I have better things to spend my money on, and I didn't need one.

But now I am beginning to think that even if I wasn't something of a Luddite and technophobe, that I made a very wise choice.

I remember being appalled that I read when Obama started giving out free phones to the poor. Now I am wondering if thee wasn't some kind of hidden agenda for doing so.

The Obama Phone Myth persists.

Reality is that Lifeline began in 1984 within the Reagan Admin applied to landlines. It was extended to cell phones in 2005 and then upgraded in 2008, before Obama was elected.

https://miami.cbslocal.com/2015/01/1...eline-program/

In 2012, someone captured a random woman explaining why she was voting for Obama- the free obamaphone. An anti- Obama PAC got the video and it went viral.

I think it very likely the woman was compensated for the video by the PAC.

And here we are a decade later and obviously some continue to perpetuate the myth of the Obamaphone.

People believe anything when it seems to validate their perception.
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