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White kid was pointing. Nothing illegal about that. You make first contact in a fight, you get arrested. Plain as day here.
The police's first order of business is to deescalate and secure the scene. It doesn't matter who started the fight. That can be sorted out later. They don't care who started the fight...
At 0:27 into the video when the police arrived, the black kid was on the floor and the white kid was on his feet approaching the black kid on the floor. You have it backwards.
I think the more relevant point is the male cop happened to pair up with the black kid (already on the ground) while the female cop paired up with a compliant white kid.
The male cop was going to put on cuffs regardless of the races involved.
The female cop was going to assist him regardless of the races involved.
I think the more relevant point is the male cop happened to pair up with the black kid (already on the ground) while the female cop paired up with a compliant white kid.
The male cop was going to put on cuffs regardless of the races involved.
The female cop was going to assist him regardless of the races involved.
I don't think it much matters the race of either kid nor gender of the police officer. The black kid was already secure and the white kid was left unsecured. That doesn't sound like good judgement nor procedure. Its not smart to turn your back on either assailant irregardless who started the fight. At this point in the video, no one is watching one of the two involved in the fight... no one.
Now if the lady officer's judgement was based on race.... we won't know for sure. But optics and perception is everything... did she turn her back on an unsecured individual because he was white to help her partner who was dealing with a black kid? won't know from just a video.
But only one was cuffed. for half an hour. a public humiliation and message to the world. Those cops came a cross an incident which far as we no so far was not race based. The cops made it about race. They saw a scuffle and figured the black kid had to be the perp and acted to protect the white victim. This is the problem here. not the kids, the cops. They will be unemployed, possible charged and the city will pay. This has to happen all over the country and it couldn't possibly happen soon enough if this country is to get right.
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Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70
The cops didn't see the beginning of the fight (though the black guy did make first physical contact with the white guy.) When they first arrived, the black kid had the upper hand in the fight and in that split second looked like he was dealing the white kid a severe beat down attack and the white kid looked like he was desperately defending himself. That's why when the cops first arrived at that moment what they saw suggested the black kid was the bigger threat.
The older bigger white guy put finger to face the shoved the kid forceably. The kid was standing up for himself , not to mention his presence there was standing up to protect and even younger smaller kid from the bully. He is a hero. You couldn't be more wrong about the circumstance. The big guy had the little guy on his back on the floor when the cops arrived. He had the upper hand and was using it. What is the matter with you Tom?
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Originally Posted by Ga2Ms
Both were cuffed and arrested. Not resisting arrest does provide the officers with less resistance. One kid waited to be cuffed, the other one resisted.
Nope, only the black kid was cuffed . Despite offering to be cuffed admitting his guilt the cops declined to cuff the bigger older white guy, because why? That white even disobeyed commands by getting up off the couch after he had been seated there. Talk about entitled, and he doesn't even appear to have been racially motivated, the cops brought that to the feast. Let them eat at the table they set. The more the better.
I don't think it much matters the race of either kid nor gender of the police officer. The black kid was already secure and the white kid was left unsecured. That doesn't sound like good judgement nor procedure. Its not smart to turn your back on either assailant irregardless who started the fight. At this point in the video, no one is watching one of the two involved in the fight... no one.
Now if the lady officer's judgement was based on race.... we won't know for sure. But optics and perception is everything... did she turn her back on an unsecured individual because he was white to help her partner who was dealing with a black kid? won't know from just a video.
You are completely right.
I cringed when the white kid stood up behind her. She did not search him. He could have been armed , he could have grabbed at her gun. She violated her training and put herself and her partner at risk.Period.
But to some posters here a white cop cannot be in the wrong if it involves a black person.
Like they did for chauvin and guyger they will defend a bad cop come hell or high water.
It’s the mainstream media fault. It’s the libs fault.
All of this drama would not be occurring if they had followed their training and proper procedures.
But only one was cuffed. for half an hour. a public humiliation and message to the world. Those cops came a cross an incident which far as we no so far was not race based. The cops made it about race. They saw a scuffle and figured the black kid had to be the perp and acted to protect the white victim. This is the problem here. not the kids, the cops. They will be unemployed, possible charged and the city will pay. This has to happen all over the country and it couldn't possibly happen soon enough if this country is to get right.
The older bigger white guy put finger to face the shoved the kid forceably. The kid was standing up for himself , not to mention his presence there was standing up to protect and even younger smaller kid from the bully. He is a hero. You couldn't be more wrong about the circumstance. The big guy had the little guy on his back on the floor when the cops arrived. He had the upper hand and was using it. What is the matter with you Tom?
Nope, only the black kid was cuffed . Despite offering to be cuffed admitting his guilt the cops declined to cuff the bigger older white guy, because why? That white even disobeyed commands by getting up off the couch after he had been seated there. Talk about entitled, and he doesn't even appear to have been racially motivated, the cops brought that to the feast. Let them eat at the table they set. The more the better.
It is done to dehumanize blacks. In the interview with the black kid and his mother, the kid said he felt humiliated and dehumanized being cuffed while the white kid was allowed to sit on the chair untouched.
But only one was cuffed. for half an hour. a public humiliation and message to the world. Those cops came a cross an incident which far as we no so far was not race based. The cops made it about race. They saw a scuffle and figured the black kid had to be the perp and acted to protect the white victim. This is the problem here. not the kids, the cops. They will be unemployed, possible charged and the city will pay. This has to happen all over the country and it couldn't possibly happen soon enough if this country is to get right.
The older bigger white guy put finger to face the shoved the kid forceably. The kid was standing up for himself , not to mention his presence there was standing up to protect and even younger smaller kid from the bully. He is a hero. You couldn't be more wrong about the circumstance. The big guy had the little guy on his back on the floor when the cops arrived. He had the upper hand and was using it. What is the matter with you Tom?
Nope, only the black kid was cuffed . Despite offering to be cuffed admitting his guilt the cops declined to cuff the bigger older white guy, because why? That white even disobeyed commands by getting up off the couch after he had been seated there. Talk about entitled, and he doesn't even appear to have been racially motivated, the cops brought that to the feast. Let them eat at the table they set. The more the better.
It must really suck for you, continually seeing the world through the lens of “White man bad! Racism!”
There was no racism in this incident. Not with the two combatants, nor with the police. Not even a little bit.
Are you familiar with 'race role conditioning'? Its kinda presuming something of someone based on race. Could that have happened here? Maybe.
Sure, that could have happened. Or not. But right now, there is no evidence to suggest that it happened.
Let me ask you, if you come upon a group that by all outward appearances appear to be thugs, would you assess a greater likelihood of thug behavior from them compared to encountering another group that by all outward appearances are on their way to church choir practice?
You call it ‘race role conditioning,’ I call it an important survival skill.
Sure, that could have happened. Or not. But right now, there is no evidence to suggest that it happened.
Let me ask you, if you come upon a group that by all outward appearances appear to be thugs, would you assess a greater likelihood of thug behavior from them compared to encountering another group that by all outward appearances are on their way to church choir practice?
You call it ‘race role conditioning,’ I call it an important survival skill.
If the people who “appear to be thugs”are innocent but still handcuffed and detained while letting the real criminals dressed as choir boys go free well then that’s when people get fired and can’t pay their mortgage. While the innocent “thugs” get cut a check from the taxpayers.
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