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Old 02-23-2022, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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That's the post article I was talking about - dangerous article for the left because if the GOP gets a landslide number of seats, this 11-point plan now becomes a mandate
So once again where is the money coming from to build more prisons, in order to stop being soft on crime? Simply make government bigger by borrowing it?
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Old 02-23-2022, 11:53 AM
 
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So once again where is the money coming from to build more prisons, in order to stop being soft on crime? Simply make government bigger by borrowing it?
Charge the prisoners rent?

Oh and abolish drug crimes. Stop jailing addicts who need treatment for their addiction.
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Old 02-23-2022, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Anyone who says CRT or ESL (emotional social learning) is not happening is dense.

It is real. It is in the schools. It IS happening.

They will never believe it. Too brainwashed to see it. Too entrenched in another dimension of reality.
But that is not true everywhere, because some states have banned teaching CRT. If people bitterly complaining about CRT being taught in schools would move to one of those states, they could live a happier life.
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Old 02-23-2022, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Boydton, VA
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I grew up in area where the FD was all volunteer and funded through the community.

No taxes needed.
Oh, ya mean like a community tax ?
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Old 02-23-2022, 11:58 AM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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So once again where is the money coming from to build more prisons, in order to stop being soft on crime? Simply make government bigger by borrowing it?
Agree. It is so easy for politicians to campaign on getting tough on crime. The first reality is you can't lock up every criminal for a long time. The second reality is once the criminal gets out, they are a much more hardened criminal. Some people will never be rehabilitated and need to stay in prison for a long time. Others need to be taken off the streets as soon as possible. The solution is not simple or easy. Just be skeptical of politicians who campaign on being tough on crime.

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Old 02-23-2022, 12:01 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Oh and abolish drug crimes. Stop jailing addicts who need treatment for their addiction.
Not exactly, you need the prison threat to force into treatment.

If you watch the Seattle is Dying documentary they show how the no enforcement laws result in exponential growth of homeless and street addicts, and compare to Rhode Island where open use is prosecuted but the user has the option to go into treatment and they have a very high success rate.

The left loves to promote that Portugal abolished all drug laws. What they don't realize is that it's still a crime in Portugal to use drugs in public. Those arrested have to seek treatment or go to jail. You can read about all that in the book "San Fran-sicko"
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Old 02-23-2022, 12:06 PM
 
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Not exactly, you need the prison threat to force into treatment.

If you watch the Seattle is Dying documentary they show how the no enforcement laws result in exponential growth of homeless and street addicts, and compare to Rhode Island where open use is prosecuted but the user has the option to go into treatment and they have a very high success rate.

The left loves to promote that Portugal abolished all drug laws. What they don't realize is that it's still a crime in Portugal to use drugs in public. Those arrested have to seek treatment or go to jail. You can read about all that in the book "San Fran-sicko"
Yes that approach is perfectly acceptable. "Lock 'em up and throw away the key" as a default is not.

Maybe a 3 strikes type policy could work. Your sentence is suspended pending successful completion of treatment and X period of time sober. Once you've completed your "probation" your suspended sentence is commuted altogether and your record expunged. You get 3 chances to complete the full course of "probation" successfully. If you still fail you have to serve your sentence. Carrot. Stick.
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Old 02-23-2022, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Boydton, VA
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No argument with the content so dig up some dirt on the author. So very....Marxist.
My post was to call attention to the "respect" offered to such a sleaze ball by the OP. I did find some of the content objectionable, other content makes sense...however none of it is either all republican ideology or all democratic ideology.
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Old 02-23-2022, 12:09 PM
 
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Oh, ya mean like a community tax ?
No, like donations and fundraising.
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Old 02-23-2022, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Agree! I identify as a libertarian but unfortunately I need to vote republican most of the time because libertarians never get any votes or put up a crappy candidate like Gary Johnson.
Just do as I do when it comes to voting for president by voting against Republican and Democrat by voting for any third party you feel like on the ballot. If only 3rd parties for president could get a record number of votes it would send a message to both parties that they suck.
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