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But that is not true everywhere, because some states have banned teaching CRT. If people bitterly complaining about CRT being taught in schools would move to one of those states, they could live a happier life.
Just because it's banned doesn't mean it's not in the classroom.
I mean, we hear that all the time about prayer, no?
Do you think it's a good plan to give a kid detention who is sticking up for his friend, because the teacher is a racist and is teaching racist theories?
Think that's a good lesson to learn that "All X race are bullies because they are so oppressed here in America."
Do you think a generation of kids who are learning that are going to have a peaceful coexistence in the future?
Just because it's banned doesn't mean it's not in the classroom.
I mean, we hear that all the time about prayer, no?
Do you think it's a good plan to give a kid detention who is sticking up for his friend, because the teacher is a racist and is teaching racist theories?
Think that's a good lesson to learn that "All X race are bullies because they are so oppressed here in America."
Do you think a generation of kids who are learning that are going to have a peaceful coexistence in the future?
Do you really think teachers are teaching critical race theory? The answer is they are not. The overwhelming number of teachers could not begin to explain what critical race theory is. For any teacher who is an pro-critical race theory, how long do you think it would take for complaints to start arriving at administration? How many teachers could even justify including it in a class discussion? The most likely would be high school English teacher who would assign a reading on the topic.
What exactly do you hear about prayer? Again, I can't imagine a teacher evangelizing in the classroom, but I actually heard of one who got fired for doing it.
Again, it's NOT THE TAXPAYER'S PROBLEM that public schools can't offer a value proposition competitive enough to raise funding or get people to pay for their services voluntarily.
Education is not voluntary, nor should it be; we as a society have determined that is in the best interest of our society as a whole and in the best interest of every one of us individually to educate our children.
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Do you need government to approve of your choices?
If want to have a legal marriage, yes, the government must “approve” by granting a license. Without that license, adults legally may not be able to care for their partners or make decisions for their partners in emergencies, cannot inherit a deceased partner’s benefits, cannot file federal income taxes as a couple, etc. etc. etc. That’s why gay people are fighting so hard for legal marriage.
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Personally all GOVERNMENT sponsored marriages should be unnecessary.
That’s fodder for another thread, since you insist on moving the goalposts.
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It is illegal to practice clinical psychology without a license, which is what SEL (Social Emotional Learning) is.
That’s not even close to what social/emotional learning is. You may know them as life skills: building positive relationships, self-management and self-awareness, decision making, awareness of others, controlling emotions, stress management, etc.
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I don't hide behind politicians nor look to them for approval.
Are you married? Did you get a marriage license? If the answer is yes, you got approval from the government.
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And how dare taxpayers want to spend their own money how they see fit.
That’s not how public taxation works. Really, this is Civics 101: taxes pay for services that benefit the (town, school district, state, nation) as a whole. If you want to label everything you don’t like as communism/socialism/totalitarianism, go ahead, but you’d be wrong.
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As soon as I get my money back for the services the government didn't deliver.
So, you want money back from every department that didn’t benefit you specifically and personally? Police, fire/EMS, schools … What about streets? Do you want to be reimbursed for the roads you didn’t drive over?
Education is not voluntary, nor should it be; we as a society have determined that is in the best interest of our society as a whole and in the best interest of every one of us individually to educate our children.
Its benefits the whole so *********, we the bureaucrats can take whatever we want from you and we owe you nothing in return? And you think I'm selfish? I'm not the one seeking handouts at other people's expense.
And btw, taxation, by definition, causes deadweight loss. Deadweight loss benefits NOBODY.
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That’s not how public taxation works. Really, this is Civics 101: taxes pay for services that benefit the (town, school district, state, nation) as a whole. If you want to label everything you don’t like as communism/socialism/totalitarianism, go ahead, but you’d be wrong.
YOU would be wrong. The taking of money (private property) without an explicit guarantee of an enumerated level of products and services IS antithetical to capitalism.
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So, you want money back from every department that didn’t benefit you specifically and personally? Police, fire/EMS, schools … What about streets? Do you want to be reimbursed for the roads you didn’t drive over?
How about the government establish Service Level Agreements with explicit service standards and fines/penalties for failing to meet those SLAs? E.g. EMS must arrive at your house within 5 minutes, otherwise you get $500 in compensation. Your local school must get your kid to Y level of academic proficiency or your get your money back. Your state must complete the construction of X freeway with Y capacity within Z years at A cost or else you get your money back. Government fails to pay and you get to foreclose on their office building.
Where's the accountability? Where are the performance metrics? Does the government even bother to measure performance? Of course not, they have shills like you to defend them.
By the way, private money built the infrastructure in this country, the first turnpikes, the first subway lines, the first transcontinental trains, airports, airlines etc etc before the Government took them all over and ran them all into the ground. And unlike when the government does it, things got built.
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Do you really think teachers are teaching critical race theory? The answer is they are not. The overwhelming number of teachers could not begin to explain what critical race theory is. For any teacher who is an pro-critical race theory, how long do you think it would take for complaints to start arriving at administration? How many teachers could even justify including it in a class discussion? The most likely would be high school English teacher who would assign a reading on the topic.
What exactly do you hear about prayer? Again, I can't imagine a teacher evangelizing in the classroom, but I actually heard of one who got fired for doing it.
They are.
My neighbor's son got detention from a comment he made in the CRT class. It's a class about racism. Pure and simple. In the most ridiculous ways you can imagine. It's teaching kids to hate each other and learn new stereotypes about other races. It's teaching white kids to hate themselves.
It's call emotional social learning or social emotional learning. It's CRT.
CRT is alive and well and being taught in classrooms.
Posting that it's not being taught is an outright LIE.
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They are.
My neighbor's son got detention from a comment he made in the CRT class. It's a class about racism. Pure and simple. In the most ridiculous ways you can imagine. It's teaching kids to hate each other and learn new stereotypes about other races. It's teaching white kids to hate themselves.
It's call emotional social learning or social emotional learning. It's CRT.
CRT is alive and well and being taught in classrooms.
Posting that it's not being taught is an outright LIE.
Where is this, I want to look at the district web site and see how they reflect this course?
Education is not voluntary, nor should it be; we as a society have determined that is in the best interest of our society as a whole and in the best interest of every one of us individually to educate our children.
If want to have a legal marriage, yes, the government must “approve” by granting a license. Without that license, adults legally may not be able to care for their partners or make decisions for their partners in emergencies, cannot inherit a deceased partner’s benefits, cannot file federal income taxes as a couple, etc. etc. etc. That’s why gay people are fighting so hard for legal marriage.
When the same sex marriage idea was floated around it was well known that had the LGBTQ crowd gone with a 'civil union' title, they would've gotten everything you've described. Without much of a fight. Same exact benefits, just called a civil union.
They said NO.
Why did they REFUSE to get everything they wanted and instead demand a 'marriage'?
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The website does not include any class syllabus. For any classes (no math, not art, no English, no ESL/SEL). Nada.
That's why YOU think it doesn't exist.
Ask my neighbor and her kid. He got detention from the teacher of that class.
I've been asking for a year on this board for a link to a districts or schools courses/curriculum and its always the same response. I can go to our State Department of Education and the Standards of Learning and Curriculum Outline for each grade is posted and even with this posters respond with "CRT" because that is the popular catch phrase and Social Media Said!!!
I doubt your neighbor would want to talk with me but can you answer what state this is?
I've been asking for a year on this board for a link to a districts or schools courses/curriculum and its always the same response. I can go to our State Department of Education and the Standards of Learning and Curriculum Outline for each grade is posted and even with this posters respond with "CRT" because that is the popular catch phrase and Social Media Said!!!
I doubt your neighbor would want to talk with me but can you answer what state this is?
Florida.
It's happening, not just here.
It's cleverly disguised and renamed. Which is why there is the constant lie that IT'S NOT HAPPENING!!!!
Because it's not called CRT. If you search for CRT? Ain't gonna find nothing.
The lesson was that X race are bullies because they are oppressed in America, with the "moral" being it's not their fault. My neighbor's kid spoke up and "My friend is X race and he is not a bully!" he was defending his friend that the teacher just insulted.
And he got detention. Because even saying "X race" is racist. Even though the teachers repeatedly said it. And it was a fact, the kid's friend is X race. The friend's father was even more p-ssed than my neighbor and he also called the school.
What they are doing to kids in school is SICK. And people keep stating, it's not happening.
Because they do not want to believe it's happening or they want to cling to their political agenda or excuse #639... but it's happening and the kids and ultimately society will pay for these injustices.
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I'm not the one seeking handouts at other people's expense.
