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Old 02-22-2022, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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... But since they dropped the whole communism thing, liberals are united in their hatred of the place.
Yeah, because socialist, leftist democrats are rooting for dropping communism over us proper capitalist conservatives.
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Old 02-22-2022, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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When Biden was a senator in the 70's, if I recall it correctly, they sent him to negotiate the SALT 2 treaty. As soon as he got back off the plane from the Soviet Union to the USA, all he could do was praise the Soviets. He boasted that both nations could have a good working relationship with one another.


That is probably his most honest opinion of Russia. I really don't think he ever spent much time thinking about the place. But it's funny how delighted he was to be over there when it was the Soviet Union... But since they dropped the whole communism thing, liberals are united in their hatred of the place.


Like Biden, I have spent very little time in my life thinking about Russia. It has about half the population as we do. That place is rather insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Democrats pay way too much attention to them, and it makes us all look foolish in the global arena. Get a life folks. You look pathetic.
The Salt 2 treaty wasn't negotiated by Putin. Brezhnev, old, failed and dying negotiated it.

Putin was still in the KGB intelligence back then, and didn't have any negotiating powers.
The treaty was signed in 1979, when Putin was 27 years old.

But if he had been a part of the treaty, he would have been a proponent of Soviet disarmament. The treaty stressed the failing Soviets very hard, and escalated their collapse.

The agreement was a very good way for Putin to begin to gather his own political power. It was very easy for him to rise as a strongman in the weak and shaky democracy that followed. He quit the KGB in 1991, the year the Soviet Empire finally collapsed, and got a job in the Leningrad Mayor's office, managing city investments.

Everything he did from then on was intended to give him control of the government. Putin never hid his ambitions; they were obvious from the start.

Biden could spot him from a mile away. Any Senator with foreign relations experience could. His rise to power was classically old-style Communist from first to last. Putting probably studied Kruschev's rise when he was still a kid.
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Old 02-22-2022, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Biden disliked Putin before it was cool
Wrong. Mitt Romney disliked Putin before it was cool. Even CNN admitted it.
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"Russia, this is, without question, our number one geopolitical foe," Romney, who would be the Republican presidential nominee in the 2012 race against President Barack Obama, told Wolf Blitzer in March of that year. "
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/22/p...ine/index.html
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Old 02-23-2022, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Wrong. Mitt Romney disliked Putin before it was cool. Even CNN admitted it.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/22/p...ine/index.html
Your quote is from 2012. The Biden quote I'm referring to is from 2001.

So - WRONG. Biden disliked Putin before it was cool before Romney disliked Putin before it was cool.
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Old 02-23-2022, 08:54 PM
 
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This thread is laughable.

1- Biden isn't in charge of anything.

2- The OP went back two decades to find an "I don't trust Putin" comment. Congrats.


Meanwhile ... U.S. nearly tripled imports of Russian oil in 2021

Meanwhile... Russian state-controlled company receives uranium mining permit in Wyoming

Money talks
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Old 02-23-2022, 08:57 PM
 
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I can tell when ByeDone is lying. His lips move.
like every other politician. they're all human garbage.
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Old 02-23-2022, 08:57 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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This thread is laughable.

1- Biden isn't in charge of anything.

2- The OP went back two decades to find an "I don't trust Putin" comment. Congrats.


Meanwhile ... U.S. nearly tripled imports of Russian oil in 2021

Meanwhile... Russian state-controlled company receives uranium mining permit in Wyoming

Money talks
The OP is good for a laugh, that's for sure.
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Old 02-23-2022, 08:59 PM
 
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Throw this gem in...

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Old 02-23-2022, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Speaking of history proving someone right-remember in 2012, the presidential debates? When Romney states that Russia is our greatest geopolitical threat? And Oblubber responds "the 1980s called, they want their foreign policy back"? Kinda shows what kind of leader he was, doesn't it? I wonder if this is tied into his "more flexibility" after the election, when Obama empowered Putin?
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Old 02-23-2022, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Biden disliked Putin before it was cool. He was right.

Sure Jan...



Facts have no power here. You're dealing with Democrats.
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