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Old 04-24-2022, 11:36 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Russia will soon find itself felled by a feature of most modern economies. It doesn't produce much on its own. Soon, major industries from auto and aviation to oil and gas will find they're missing key imported parts that will stop production and jobs in their tracks.
It was never about mall vacancies and Starbucks and the price of bread.



So all this brave talk about what will happen (usually followed by a "I guarantee" or a "period") is just bluster and short term wishing.

 
Old 04-24-2022, 11:37 AM
 
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And we're back to the wifebeater excuse.

Then probably "the wife" ( or emotionally-unstable *girl-friend,* or whatever you want to call it,) SHOULDN'T invite the enemy of her former husband to live in her apartment, that is next to her former husband's one.

Because obviously, that new "boyfriend" of hers is much more interested in this location, more so than being so much *in love* with her.

And that's what the "former husband" was warning his "former wife" about, knowing her *emotionally-unstable character* through the centuries.
 
Old 04-24-2022, 12:26 PM
 
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This is correct. Western states will go under Poland, under the pretext of "peaceful forces" maintaining peace there. Russia is NOT interested in regions that hate her for centuries and ALWAYS were doormat for the West. What Polaks will do to the nationalists, is different story. They have many wounds memories and long standing history of looking at Ukrainians, as bydlo, cattle.


Zakarpattia will go under Hungary, as it historically was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire anyway and Hungary already talks about same peaceful troops.


Southern Ukraine, Pridnestrovye included, will become Novorossiya, within old settlement boundaries from the 18th century. It will be the new heaven for Jews to migrate from Israel to. All prep work was done, synagogues built, first troops already tested water. Pressure is now being put on Israel, to gently force its dwellers out. Novorossiya will be centered in the Krimea Republic (which also has sacred Jewish spiritual centers in it, Chufut Kale, for example). No need to listen to me. Listen to one Jakov (Jacob) Kedmy on Vladimir Solovyov's (hes a Hasidim, Solovyov) evenings on Russian official government channel. Kedmy, outside of being ex-special intelligence officer, was in charge of the NATIV, Israeli immigration service and, thanks to him, ex USSR Jews are major part of the Israel population. Now, he is obl;iged with the new exodus.



Ukraine, what's left of it, will become amorphous, powerless, neutral state, living off the West donations. It will be a buffer between Russia/Novorossiya/ Belarus and the West. Basic grey area. No access to Black Sea, it was already officially announced as the 2nd goal of the special operation in Ukraine, what - 4-5 days ago? Country will be so deep in debt that it will be in practically financial slavery.



Russia/Belarus/Novorossiya/Pridnestrovye/Abhazia/Chechnya will create a new federation, akin to the old USSR. When USA will pull out (read - stop paying them) from Europe/NATO, the rest of the small republics, existing off US donations, will turn East again and, eventually, join. The so called "frontier tactic" will be employed for this. EU will fall apart. New Austro -Hungarian conglomerate will be created. East Germany is planned to join that new eastern alliance, as it was before. It is not known yet, if GB or France will run Europe, as it will become. That's why B Johnson is bending over backwards in his political and diplomatic efforts. GB needs its own new currency zone, as dollar as the one and only system is gone BYE BYE already.
Thank you for the honest assessment. This or a subset is, of course, why Putin now is in Ukraine busy killing Ukrainians who object to their role. Almost certainly Putin wants to reconstitute former Russian power within Europe in some form. Ukraine apparently resisted more than anticipated, so where this goes from here remains uncertain.

@anneapplebaum
In Russia the state has ordered publishers to eliminate the word "Ukraine" from textbooks. An attempt to erase a nation and a people, and to leave no trace, has begun.

Anne Applebaum, of course, is the Polish-American historian who writes extensively about Central and Eastern Europe



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Then probably "the wife" ( or emotionally-unstable *girl-friend,* or whatever you want to call it,) SHOULDN'T invite the enemy of her former husband to live in her apartment, that is next to her former husband's one.

Because obviously, that new "boyfriend" of hers is much more interested in this location, more so than being so much *in love* with her.

And that's what the "former husband" was warning his "former wife" about, knowing her *emotionally-unstable character* through the centuries.
And this is the spun version, that somehow this is Ukraine's fault. ukrkoz's assessment is more on target. Putin's eyes go beyond Ukraine not to invade but in some grand geopolitical strategy. Ukraine is but the first step, although one where Russia has faltered.

What is it with you and Ukraine? It's emotionally unstable. They are peasants. It has no culture. Whatever good there comes from Russia. Earlier a whole discussion "claiming" the Cossacks completely ignoring the Zaporozhian Sich. The continuous erroneous historical assertions.

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Old 04-24-2022, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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If Ukraine is "winning" why is the clown Zelensky begging, and tearing his hair out for more weapons? Every day, he a$k$ and beg$ for more, and more than that. Scott Ritter on youtube has the best analysis for the situation. He knows more about tactics than 99% of the armchair warriors munching on their Corn chips.
 
Old 04-24-2022, 12:41 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Then probably "the wife" ( or emotionally-unstable *girl-friend,* or whatever you want to call it,) SHOULDN'T invite the enemy of her former husband to live in her apartment, that is next to her former husband's one.

Because obviously, that new "boyfriend" of hers is much more interested in this location, more so than being so much *in love* with her.

And that's what the "former husband" was warning his "former wife" about, knowing her *emotionally-unstable character* through the centuries.
Wow. Just wow. “The wife" (or emotionally-unstable *girl-friend,* or whatever you want to call it) 100% has a right to invite whoever she wants to live in HER apartment. It’s not her former husband’s business who lives in HER home. The "former husband" has zero authority to dictate what his "former wife" has to do because he has declared she is an *emotionally-unstable character*, his only right is to keep whoever he wants out of his personal home.

Jesus Christ, no wonder you can’t grasp why the rest of the world is appalled by Russia’s actions. You are under the mistaken impression that there is nothing wrong with autocratic bullies. That is a very serious moral flaw.
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Old 04-24-2022, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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Zelensky keeps asking Biden to come to Ukraine. He acts like he's in charge of the world. I have seen videos of Russian soldiers feeding people not far from the steel plant. Patrick Lancaster's videos on youtube show the down and gritty side of what Ukrainian people go through every day. Most Americans don't know the full history behind the Azov Battalion.
 
Old 04-24-2022, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Wow. Just wow. “The wife" (or emotionally-unstable *girl-friend,* or whatever you want to call it) 100% has a right to invite whoever she wants to live in HER apartment. It’s not her former husband’s business who lives in HER home. The "former husband" has zero authority to dictate what his "former wife" has to do because he has declared she is an *emotionally-unstable character*, his only right is to keep whoever he wants out of his personal home.

Jesus Christ, no wonder you can’t grasp why the rest of the world is appalled by Russia’s actions. You are under the mistaken impression that there is nothing wrong with autocratic bullies. That is a very serious moral flaw.
Please go ahead and call your Congressman that you oppose Monroe Doctrine and demand its repeal.


PS I would not call my Congressman, because I believe Monroe Doctrine is fair and square and makes our life safer. Having said that, if USA reserves the right to meddle into internal affairs of neighboring (and not even neighboring, but closely located) countries, then other countries have equal rights to meddle with inner affairs of their neighbors. China can and will deal with other Asian countries, Russia can and will deal with ex-USSR countries in any way it like, and can, and it should not be surprising. According to the Monroe Doctrine, it's the way of life.

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Old 04-24-2022, 01:14 PM
 
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Wow. Just wow. “The wife" (or emotionally-unstable *girl-friend,* or whatever you want to call it) 100% has a right to invite whoever she wants to live in HER apartment. It’s not her former husband’s business who lives in HER home. The "former husband" has zero authority to dictate what his "former wife" has to do because he has declared she is an *emotionally-unstable character*, his only right is to keep whoever he wants out of his personal home.

Jesus Christ, no wonder you can’t grasp why the rest of the world is appalled by Russia’s actions. You are under the mistaken impression that there is nothing wrong with autocratic bullies. That is a very serious moral flaw.

How about that gun, that's conveniently sticking out of her window right in the former husband's apartment?


Still "appalled by Russia's actions?"


P.S. Speaking of the "autocratic bullies" - that's precisely what I warned folks on the Capitol Hill, that if they'll continue their crappy policies towards Russia, they will end up dealing with "autocratic bullies."
They didn't want to believe it BACK THEN, in the 90ies.
They thought that everything was hunky-dory and they had Russia right where they wanted it to be.

( Until it was no longer a case of course, so their happiness didn't last for long.)

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Old 04-24-2022, 01:18 PM
 
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Then probably "the wife" ( or emotionally-unstable *girl-friend,* or whatever you want to call it,) SHOULDN'T invite the enemy of her former husband to live in her apartment, that is next to her former husband's one.

Because obviously, that new "boyfriend" of hers is much more interested in this location, more so than being so much *in love* with her.

And that's what the "former husband" was warning his "former wife" about, knowing her *emotionally-unstable character* through the centuries.
Well, that's my point made for me. Russia's actions are those of an obsessed, abusive ex. Neatly put.
 
Old 04-24-2022, 01:18 PM
 
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Zelensky keeps asking Biden to come to Ukraine. He acts like he's in charge of the world. I have seen videos of Russian soldiers feeding people not far from the steel plant. Patrick Lancaster's videos on youtube show the down and gritty side of what Ukrainian people go through every day. Most Americans don't know the full history behind the Azov Battalion.
Do you know the full history behind Patrick Lancaster? No way can you assess his videos showing "the down and gritty side of what Ukrainian people go through every day" without that. Hint: he's a shill for the Separatists who distributes staged scenes involving blood and gore and all.

As for Azov, should we judge based on what we think is in someone's minds or perhaps a tattoo on their bodies, particularly without understanding its meaning today? Or on their actions? Right now there are Russian-speaking Ukrainians commenting how a nationalist parade on the street is preferable to Russian tanks coming down it.

To what's happening right now, with Azov and the Russians? Turns out many civilians within the Azovstal shown on the bunker videos are the families of plant workers. Not wanting to be wrongly generous about Azov, I'd assumed it was "supporting" its own families or the medical staff, with the plant workers elsewhere in the massive complex. That was the case when the two workers and their families left weeks ago before Russia started bombing it. WRONG.

Far from using civilians as shields as Erasure maintained, Azov appears to be FEEDING them from its own limited stocks. These civilians (the plant worker families, perhaps not the Azov families) want to now leave since Mariupol street fighting has died down.

It's the RUSSIANS who say no, civilians can only come out with combatants, Azov plus some number of Ukraine Army Marines + now apparently border patrol + police units in a white-flag surrender.

Russia uses civilians to pressure Ukrainian combatants. Not the other way around. . This is a ruthless invasion.
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