Russia has now invaded Ukraine (Putin, interview, parade, weapons)
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Russia WILL lose this war eventually. Hopefully, it will not be like Afghanistan where they took over the country and then gradually lost control. Hopefully they will lose much quicker.
"Eventually."
Even with western military aid, the Ukrainian forces in the eastern part of the country are being picked apart by the Russians. As I have written before, the Russians encircled Ukrainian positions weeks ago.
The Azovstal steelworks plant, within which a combination of neo-Nazi Azov fighters and Ukrainian civilians - women, children, and senior citizens - were trapped remains completely surrounded by Russian troops, and as of this past weekend, Russian and Ukrainian sources have both stated all of those civilians have been safely evacuated. 200 were permitted to get out last week and 300 more were safely taken out this past weekend.
The UN and the Red Cross were both involved in this effort.
Russia has repeatedly called on those Azov fighters to surrender, but up to now, they refuse. Which is not a viable position. Their allies cannot possibly hope to supply them, and the Russians, who have surrounded the plant, have superior firepower with armor in addition to infantry. At one point, the Azov fighters will run out of food and water; they may go "kamikaze" on the Russians, but that's essentially trying to look heroic while getting torn apart.
I have read 1,000 Azov fighters did surrender while wielding a white flag. They're the smart ones. I did see footage of a surrender of Ukrainians from late April.
In addition to this, Russia has taken Popasna, a settlement in Donbass, while Snake Island (near Odessa) has been taken by Russia.
The chief of staff of Ukraine's 36th Marine Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was captured. Dmitry Kormyakov. He stated that Ukraine could make concessions (no NATO) to end this war.
I respectfully submit your "eventually" alludes to economic damage from sanctions. But in the battlefield, Ukraine cannot and will not win.
Schools/daycare centers and sometimes hospitals are the favorite type of buildings that Ukrainian troops like to lodge in/occupy.
Even before any offensive takes place, I often see the reports from the Russian front lines, what school (and in which towns exactly, and at what location) Ukrainian troops took their position in.
They know what looks good for propaganda purposes, once the Russians start firing back at them.
Pure nonsense with the use of the emoji offensive. When Russians attack urban areas, Ukrainian soldiers have a right to themselves take shelter from missiles. Without fortified trenches etc. any expectation they should remain out in the open to die to is utterly ridiculous. Likewise when Russia decides to invade a country, not all civilians can somehow magically whisk themselves into another safer country.
Schools and daycares tend to be unoccupied during this war for mothers with children are often the most likely to flee. That Ukraine wants civilians to die for the propaganda is bizarre. Believe me, they have plenty of dead civilians already.
A new AP account reconstructed the destruction within the Mariupol theater from the Russian bombing (not Ukrainian shelling) to estimate at least 600 dead with no Ukrainian soldiers present per interviews of survivors who did manage to leave Mariupol for Ukrainian lines. Russia claimed differently, of course. War crimes investigations will fully develop information for charges to come and possible international trials.
Russia appears to be bombing and shelling indiscriminately prior to attempted forward advances which results in the large-scale destruction within, yes, Ukrainian defended urban areas. An Amnesty International report on Friday included the unlawful air strikes on Borodyanka (as well as the civilian executions in other towns and villages including Bucha, Andriivka, Zdvyzhivka and Vorzel).
There is no good guys in a war but, did you care to research, why exactly Russia invaded Ukraine? Russia is NOT known for continuously sending imperial troops out, to gain colonies. Maybe, a thought crossed your mind that, there could have been just grounds for preemptive strike? After all, no country "simply does" such venture, knowing well that 1. it can lose 2. it WILL go through huge sacrifice 3. current power may not be in power anymore.
Surely, there was some grave reason to do so. Any ideas? Leave "Putin is idiot and bloodthirsty vampire dying to cancer" reason to kindergarten kids.
If you have ANY historical conscience and do ANY research, you WILL find that, in the last 700 years, Russia was attacked continuously and did such escapades only occasionally.
Or, should we discuss the Iraq invasion, when country thousands of miles away, posing NO threat, was invaded under known bogus pretext? To applause of the west? Should we?
In the last 700 years most countries who did not have geographical barriers like Switzerland were attacked continuously in that part of the world. That's one of the tragedies of this invasion - Ukraine just went thru this less than 80 years ago at that time dealing both with the Nazis and the NKVD with earlier periods of destruction proximate in time.
It's not the world's nor Ukraine's fault that Russia has crappy geography. Russia did not expect that 1. it would lose, or 2. it would make a huge sacrifice, and certainly not that 3. Putin's position could be endangered. That is clear both from intelligence and its faulty war plan. In other words, Putin's expectation for a relatively quick and easy fait accompli was wrong.
What could be discussed is whether Putin is attempting to reassert Russian power within Europe - not specifically Ukraine - for 'defensive' purposes or more broadly to reestablish the earlier Russian monolith. Arguably, the distinction between the two might not be distinct. Since Putin's so-called justifications appear easily disputable, I vote for the latter.
Putin seeking to bring neighboring countries into his sphere of influence is not unreasonable. However, when he cannot achieve that thru the ballot box to instead turn to his version of a coup and when that fails to instead destroy it - is.
Putin's claim that he is protecting Russian-speaking people is laughable. If that were a valid reason then the Brits would be invading the USA to protect English speaking people, and Canada, and India, and Hong Kong, and .... and ....
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I have read 1,000 Azov fighters did surrender while wielding a white flag. They're the smart ones. I did see footage of a surrender of Ukrainians from late April. ...
The chief of staff of Ukraine's 36th Marine Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was captured. Dmitry Kormyakov. He stated that Ukraine could make concessions (no NATO) to end this war. ...
You may be thinking of the 36th marines at the Illich Steel and Iron Works. Russia claims 1,000 surrendered; Ukraine less as some reached the Azovstal. At this time Russia also has the captured colonel (Col. Baranyuk) "testifying." Likewise, it had one of the formerly pregnant women (now with a newborn) at the Mariupol Maternity hospital "testify."
About Kormyakov, I also believe Zelensky publicly stated much earlier that Ukraine was willing to concede it would not join NATO to no apparent response from Russia.
This is interesting. Wonder what Prokopenko meant. The 36th marines did appear to be out of food, with the Illich not as prepared for a siege as the Azovstal. Perhaps he thought they should have as a group fought their way towards the Azovstal. (Some did, some did not.)
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The commander of #Azov Regiment, Denis Prokopenko, said that they could've held the defense on the right bank of the city of #Mariupol for a long time if the commander of the 36th Marine Brigade didn't decide to attempt a breakthrough from the #Ilyich plant.
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"I don't know if it was the decision of the commander of the 36th Brigade, Col. Baranyuk, or if someone pushed him to. In any case, it was completely illogical," Prokopenko said.
Even with western military aid, the Ukrainian forces in the eastern part of the country are being picked apart by the Russians. As I have written before, the Russians encircled Ukrainian positions weeks ago.
The Azovstal steelworks plant, within which a combination of neo-Nazi Azov fighters and Ukrainian civilians - women, children, and senior citizens - were trapped remains completely surrounded by Russian troops, and as of this past weekend, Russian and Ukrainian sources have both stated all of those civilians have been safely evacuated. 200 were permitted to get out last week and 300 more were safely taken out this past weekend.
The UN and the Red Cross were both involved in this effort.
Russia has repeatedly called on those Azov fighters to surrender, but up to now, they refuse. Which is not a viable position. Their allies cannot possibly hope to supply them, and the Russians, who have surrounded the plant, have superior firepower with armor in addition to infantry. At one point, the Azov fighters will run out of food and water; they may go "kamikaze" on the Russians, but that's essentially trying to look heroic while getting torn apart.
I have read 1,000 Azov fighters did surrender while wielding a white flag. They're the smart ones. I did see footage of a surrender of Ukrainians from late April.
In addition to this, Russia has taken Popasna, a settlement in Donbass, while Snake Island (near Odessa) has been taken by Russia.
The chief of staff of Ukraine's 36th Marine Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was captured. Dmitry Kormyakov. He stated that Ukraine could make concessions (no NATO) to end this war.
I respectfully submit your "eventually" alludes to economic damage from sanctions. But in the battlefield, Ukraine cannot and will not win.
Can you provide some documentation or some kind of map?
And in Ukraine - Russian troops will shout "hurrah."
Russia will win this war.
Nope.
Russia will lose....you can count on that
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