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Old 05-25-2022, 08:31 AM
 
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Back in 2018...

Two teens arrested in 'mass casualty' plot in 2018 targeting a Uvalde middle school
https://www.kens5.com/article/news/l.../273-548565605

Was the 2022 shooter one of the teens who was arrested back in 2018?
If so, then they really dropped the ball.
Wow. If so, this is a big deal.

 
Old 05-25-2022, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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So, should the US have gotten involved or just stayed out of this conflict? Are we in a better place than if we had stayed out of it?
Putin's Russia is a threat and a menace to the global community. They are nothing more than an imperialist aggressor that invaded a sovereign nation without justification other than acquiring natural resources for themselves at the expense of human lives. The entire Free World which includes the US has appropriately come to the aid of Ukraine. There really is no ambiguity here...No Ukraine is not perfect...but history has shown us what happens when these actions are not confronted.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 08:40 AM
 
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The video showed the gunman crossing the parking lot and walking into the building.

The doors should be locked when classes are in session and only able to be opened from the inside. And alarms. Then if the gunman had broken the glass the alarms would sound in the office so the office personnel could call 911. And summon any males in the building possibly with some of them having a fire arm legally.
The alarm would auto lock the doors to the class rooms until the person entering that door had been identified and decoyed away from class rooms, etc. That time can be used by teachers and students to break windows and get out of the classrooms IF the office had notified them of an armed scenario and told to exit by the windows.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Agree, but It’s More than just social media — the pervasive and extreme acts of violence these kids are exposed to 24/7 via movies, TV, video games is changing our culture.
When I grew up (50-early60s) there were plenty of guns around yet rare acts of violence. — the only violence we kids were exposed to on TV or movies were western mild shoot ups, boys beating each other up and rarely a knife was brought to a school and pulled in a fight and everyone was totally shocked.

I know there were some gangs and some mafia violence, but we weren’t exposed to this 24/7 nor were there the constant TV/Movie entertainment VISUALS of beheadings, gang rapes, mass shootouts, perverse torture, etc
Does Europe not have social media and movies , keep avoiding the obvious problem.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 08:46 AM
 
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I do agree though. We need even more attention to this issue. To me, the mental health crisis, along with inner city violence are our countries biggest threats, although Biden will disagree.
I am not convinced Biden will disagree with you on that.

Anyway, I believe you make some good points.

As a nation, we can walk and chew gum at the same time. It's about priorities ... Does FEMA need funding? Are prescription medicines too costly? Are illegals getting in? Is affordable housing in short supply? Are workplaces unsafe? Do we care for our veterans properly?

Urban gun violence and mental healthcare for all citizens are certainly important.

We can address all of these problems. Some are easier fixes than others but we can tackle them all and overcome them all.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 08:47 AM
 
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Agree, but It’s More than just social media — the pervasive and extreme acts of violence these kids are exposed to 24/7 via movies, TV, video games is changing our culture.
When I grew up (50-early60s) there were plenty of guns around yet rare acts of violence. — the only violence we kids were exposed to on TV or movies were western mild shoot ups, boys beating each other up and rarely a knife was brought to a school and pulled in a fight and everyone was totally shocked.

I know there were some gangs and some mafia violence, but we weren’t exposed to this 24/7 nor were there the constant TV/Movie entertainment VISUALS of beheadings, gang rapes, mass shootouts, perverse torture, etc
Oh, so that's why this doesn't happen anywhere else in the world, kids there don't watch movies and don't play videogames.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So, I was doing some math. We have 100,000 public schools in the country. We just spent 40 billion dollars on Ukraine. If we used that 40 billion here, we could an average of 6.6 armed police/security officers for EVERY school in the country, assuming a $60,000 per year average salary. Why are we talking about repealing amendments and confiscating 300 million guns when we have effective, real-world solutions that we could implement tomorrow if we weren't laundering money in Ukraine.
So spend billions on police squads around schools, how about trains, supermarkets and churches. Sounds like you want to avoid the obvious problem which sets us apart from every other country. How about addressing the disease and not the symptom.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 08:55 AM
 
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Does Europe not have social media and movies , keep avoiding the obvious problem.
We aren't Europe. And really can't be compared to them. We are a unique country with it's own unique and complex societal issues. Ones that are being ignored.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Russia is not annexing anything. When liberated regions WANT to become part of Russia, how is that Russia's fault? And when you look at the Donbas, those people did not even plan to become independent, Putin was initially against it and only recognized their independence 8 years after they declared themselves independent.
Those people want to become independent or part of Russia BECAUSE of Ukraine's oppressive behavior towards them. Why would Americans not understand that when they openly support separatists in Taiwan?

Russia is not killing innocent civilians, although the occasional collateral damage can't be ruled out, not least because the Ukrainians are pu***es that love to hide behind civilians. So they kick civilians out of their apartments and shoot from windows at Russians AND Ukrainians civilians. There are hundreds of interviews with Ukrainians victims of such attacks, but the West doesn't care.

It is not my personal opinion, they ARE nazis, they openly admit it, and they proudly show it by tattooing nazi symbolism all over their bodies. Why do Russians find Mein Kampf, nazi flags etc. in Azov quarters if those guys are not nazis?
That’s quite a convolution, Russia had troops in Donbas snack in 2014. It doesn’t appear there will be anything left of these cities he is liberating. Russia lost so many soldiers they resorted to artillery on civilians rather than face the Ukrainian soldiers who are willing to fie for their country.

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Old 05-25-2022, 08:56 AM
 
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... Lets hear it... What kinda Gun Law would you like passed?

A sensible first step would be for the Senate to at-least permit a vote on HR 8 requiring background checks for private gun sales. Remarkable that when you poll people, one typically finds that 90% of Americans believe ALL gun sales should be subject to background checks. If there was ever anything that had nearly universal support in this country, this is it. But because of the paranoia of a relatively small number of NRA types who refuse any sensible controls on firearms (you included apparently), we can’t even ****ing get a vote in this in the Senate. Pathetic really.
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