Russia has now invaded Ukraine (Putin, interview, accuse, soldiers)
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You are repeating Russian propaganda and accusing the Ukrainian government of being dominated by those elements. One thing I know is that the government there is almost as corrupt as the one in Russia.
Putin's essay made it clear that he never saw Ukraine as a real country, so these excuses of the Ukrainian class being Nazis, nationalists and drug addicts are a red herring. Putin's goal is to subsume Ukraine similar to what they did to Belarus.
What people forget is that political differences and debates (left vs right, fascists versus communists) are only luxuries of the free world. These distinctions only have meaning and purpose in representative democracies.
In Russia, politics were simply a pathway to power for the oligarchs. Putin could just as well have accused the Ukrainians of being Jews or Catholics if he felt that would benefit him somehow. In this case, he believed that the "Nazi" label could resonate with the Russian population. But in the end he could not care less about the beliefs or political affiliations of the Ukrainians. His plan is to subjugate them under the iron fist of the Kremlin regardless.
To label a divergent view "propaganda" is not an argument. Please present one - if you have one.
Actually, it is the facts. Putin accusing Ukraine of committing genocide and having a drug-addicted, Nazi-dominate government is propaganda. I guess it's best to agree to disagree.
Day 5 since Vlad the invader started an unprovoked war with Ukraine.
Putin, a known war criminal and thuggish megalomaniac has, to date, forced more than 500,000 innocent Ukrainians from their country and hundreds of thousands more from their homes and communities. He is destroying their towns, apartment buildings and businesses even as we read and write about it. Just because he chooses to do so.
And now he threatens the world with brutish rhetoric, and heinous nuclear sable rattling, because decent leaders and appalled nations have responded in support of the people of Ukraine and their democratically elected government.
Russia's unnecessary attack and unjustified aggression on Ukraine has been condemned by the majority of the world who have countered with firm reinforcement for the sovereignty and self determination of the independent nation of Ukraine and her citizens.
Putin well deserves the title of Pariah of the Planet. Proud, I am, that my nation stands with President Zelensky and his people and their strong, high achieving and heroic military who defend democracy.
Last edited by corpgypsy; 02-28-2022 at 06:48 AM..
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Actually, it is the facts. Putin accusing Ukraine of committing genocide and having a drug-addicted, Nazi-dominate government is propaganda. I guess it's best to agree to disagree.
That statement isn't propaganda. It's the truth.
You said I am the one repeating Russian propaganda. If you can't prove it, you're merely making a hollow assertion.
What people forget is that political differences and debates (left vs right, fascists versus communists) are only luxuries of the free world. These distinctions only have meaning and purpose in representative democracies.
In Russia, politics were simply a pathway to power for the oligarchs. Putin could just as well have accused the Ukrainians of being Jews or Catholics if he felt that would benefit him somehow. In this case, he believed that the "Nazi" label could resonate with the Russian population. But in the end he could not care less about the beliefs or political affiliations of the Ukrainians. His plan is to subjugate them under the iron fist of the Kremlin regardless.
That's exactly correct. I read his essay on Ukraine and it's pretty clear that the Nazi and genocide allegations are mere pretexts for his grand ambition of subjugating Ukraine.
You said I am the one repeating Russian propaganda. If you can't prove it, you're merely making a hollow assertion.
You are the one agreeing with the genocide, Nazi-dominated, and drug-addicted government claim. Therefore, you should prove it.
You conveniently ignore his essay on Ukraine and the fact that he fomented separatism and started an invasion. THis was never about ethnic Russians in the East. Instead, it's about subjugation. Please read his essay.
As I wrote - the sooner this ends the better for everybody involved. But Russia wants this war to ends on terms favorable to itself.
Notice Putin is NOT bombing cities and causing mass casualties?
The US has put Ukraine in this position they are in. They went from a neutral buffer state to US backed corrupt state.
Putin has fallen for this trap. The west wants higher oil prices and a shortage to blame Putin but to further their New Green Scam and World Order.
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