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Old 03-13-2022, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Neuling View Post
That is basically what happened in Iraq, even based on fictitious WMD as we know now.

And this is not just about Nato, Ukraine had planned an attack on Dombas and Crimea on March 8. So, again it was preemptive on the part of Russia.




Anyway, those people cheering for Ukraine are stupid. They are like Germans cheering for Hitler.
We Europeans should be grateful to Putin for fighting the Nazi scum for us. If other countries had done the same preemptive thing 90 years ago, a world war and Holocaust could have been avoided.
No idea where you got that information, Russians were already in Donbass to protect Russians according to Putin. They used the same excuse to invade Crimea. I don't doubt there are some Nazi's in Ukraine but to invade a country for that reason is pure propaganda. There are more neo-Nazi's in Europe that should be a larger concern, they even infiltrated the German Army so maybe Putin invaded the wrong country.

Imagine if Mexico invaded Southern Texas to protect Mexicans.

 
Old 03-13-2022, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Leaked Kremlin Memo to Russian Media: It Is “Essential” to Feature Tucker Carlson
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“It is essential to use as much as possible fragments of broadcasts of the popular Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who sharply criticizes the actions of the United States [and] NATO, their negative role in unleashing the conflict in Ukraine, [and] the defiantly provocative behavior from the leadership of the Western countries and NATO towards the Russian Federation and towards President Putin, personally,” advises the 12-page document written in Russian. It sums up Carlson’s position: “Russia is only protecting its interests and security.”
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Prior to the Russian invasion, Carlson was perhaps the most prominent American voice challenging opposition to Putin. In one now-infamous commentary, he said, “Why do Democrats want you to hate Putin? Has Putin shipped every middle class job in your town to Russia? Did he manufacture a worldwide pandemic that wrecked your business? Is he teaching your kids to embrace racial discrimination? Is he making fentanyl? Does he eat dogs?”

Carlson repeatedly noted there was no reason for the United States to assist Ukraine in its battle with Russia and insisted it was “not treason, it is not un-American” to support Putin. He contended that Ukraine was not “a democracy” but a “client state” of the US government.
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Old 03-13-2022, 09:13 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Former NYT contributor killed, other journalists wounded by Russian fire, Kyiv police say
 
Old 03-13-2022, 09:23 AM
 
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Russia could be preparing for chemical weapons attack; 35 killed in strike on base near Lviv: Live updates
 
Old 03-13-2022, 09:23 AM
 
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What evidence do you have of that? Also Dombas and Crimea is part of Ukraine regardless what Russia claims. Please post actual evidence that there are Nazi in Ukraine.
There is unlimited evidence of Nazi groups in Ukraine and US and NGO money (Soros) supporting them. They are basically used as the muscle to threaten politicians (think ANTIFA but worse). Watch the Ukraine on Fire and Revealing Ukraine documentaries by Oliver Stone. Also here is some more reports.

https://therealnews.com/opinion-ther...zis-dont-exist

https://twitter.com/joeywreck/status...707230725?s=21
 
Old 03-13-2022, 09:27 AM
 
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There is unlimited evidence of Nazi groups in Ukraine and US and NGO money (Soros) supporting them. They are basically used as the muscle to threaten politicians (think ANTIFA but worse). Watch the Ukraine on Fire and Revealing Ukraine documentaries by Oliver Stone. Also here is some more reports.

https://therealnews.com/opinion-ther...zis-dont-exist

https://twitter.com/joeywreck/status...707230725?s=21

We have KKK groups in US , should Mexico or some other country's invade as result? What you are posting is garbage.
 
Old 03-13-2022, 09:35 AM
 
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I hope that Zelensky and Putin can come to terms and end the conflict, but every speech Zelensky gives sounds like he is nowhere near that. I just watched a speech called "Zelensky Urges Ukrainians to Hold on and Continue to Fight."

In this speech, Zelensky describes Russia as being impoverished economically and morally, and that Russia can only offer people "poverty," and "a very hard struggle to survive" and no chance to "dream" of a better life. This may explain why Ukrainians felt a desire to align themselves with the west--whatever Putin was offering them probably could not compare.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-Poland.html

When the Russians capture Zelensky, what will they do with him? Will Putin be civilized with him, or will he be brutal? And if the latter, what will the world's reaction be? I fear that if Putin is anything other than civilized with Zelensky, he will stir the world's anger and hate against him and against Russia to new levels never seen before.
 
Old 03-13-2022, 09:37 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Neuling View Post
That is basically what happened in Iraq, even based on fictitious WMD as we know now.

And this is not just about Nato, Ukraine had planned an attack on Dombas and Crimea on March 8. So, again it was preemptive on the part of Russia.

Where's the evidence? There should be tangible evidence of military buildups just as we saw from Russia the past few months.
 
Old 03-13-2022, 09:38 AM
 
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We have KKK groups in US , should Mexico or some other country's invade as result? What you are posting is garbage.
You asked for evidence I provided it. I didn’t like what I discovered either after taking time to understand some of the history. Here is some more information.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254217.shtml
 
Old 03-13-2022, 09:50 AM
 
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Where's the evidence? There should be tangible evidence of military buildups just as we saw from Russia the past few months.
Yes there needs to be evidence to backup these claims, if Ukraine planned to attack Donbas there needs to be evidence, otherwise it’s likely Russia propaganda to justify their invasion. I am open to reading reports if the poster has anything to backup this claim
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