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But according to the media, for about the 10th day in a row, the Russian army is inching closer. They must be moving forward literally inches at a time.
Absolutely - many inches at a time. And they could have moved thousands of inches farther already had the Russian military decided to engage in a war whereby civilian targets were indiscriminately fired upon.
But because the Russians did attempt to minimize civilian suffering/deaths and damage to non-military infrastructure, they couldn't go as fast as they could otherwise had advanced.
they are not losing. not in any military means. a fraction of the USSR capabilities are involved and we dont mean nu-cu-lah.
Putin wants -istanian fighters driving chinese tanks to the same end.
I am moving at increasing pace over to the no fly zone. we have MORE than enough retired AF pilots in nato that want a ride. give it to them.
The problem, as it were, is not going away anytime soon.
Losing, in terms of what is deployed in the battlefield. Their biggest losses are yet to come, when/if they try to move into Kyev. The Ukes have received tens of thousands of anti-tank weapons and are dug into trenches waiting.
Absolutely - many inches at a time. And they could have moved thousands of inches farther already had the Russian military decided to engage in a war whereby civilian targets were indiscriminately fired upon.
But because the Russians did attempt to minimize civilian suffering/deaths and damage to non-military infrastructure, they couldn't go as fast as they could otherwise had advanced.
The problem with the Flying Tigers version II going into Ukraine is that Russia, unlike Japan can do major damage to America beyond military outpost sailing days away from the west coast. And flying from a NATO base is the definition of WWIII.
we can fly an E3 jamming lookdown radar signals from WITHIN poland, to protect aid convoys and us built - internationally sold aircraft operating from around Lviv with american, Uk and israeli ex-pilots, who are lining up by the 100's.
Give the Ukrs a couple dozen patriot batteries and diesel pickup to tow them with...since the whole idea of 'do not supply weapons to a combatant wisdom' has flown out the window, I submit, it no longer makes a difference. up the ante. Im paying for it, so .... do it.
Absolutely - many inches at a time. And they could have moved thousands of inches farther already had the Russian military decided to engage in a war whereby civilian targets were indiscriminately fired upon.
But because the Russians did attempt to minimize civilian suffering/deaths and damage to non-military infrastructure, they couldn't go as fast as they could otherwise had advanced.
Such kindness! They should be showered with flowers as they enter the cities they have freed from oppression!
Such kindness! They should be showered with flowers as they enter the cities they have freed from oppression!
That's actually a feasible scenario - "Ukronazis" have not, to my knowledge, been fully purged from areas where they had been in place from where they then committed war crimes by deliberately sniping and shelling Russians in Donbass.
I speculate the residents of the Lugansk People's Republic and Donetsk People's Republic, many if not most ethnic Russians, will treat the Russian army in the fashion you have described.
Losing, in terms of what is deployed in the battlefield. Their biggest losses are yet to come, when/if they try to move into Kyev. The Ukes have received tens of thousands of anti-tank weapons and are dug into trenches waiting.
but soviet style military doctrine, which putin has demonstrated he adheres to at any move, now dictates he avoids close contact with embedded troops (the costliest battlefield scenario) and shell residential areas from afar - russian artillery is just as accurate as ours and their procedures are the same. The shock and awe he inflicts on refugees is ALSO long standing soviet doctrine to break the nationalist will of the people. As long as the Poles keep trucking in lethal aid, it will stand at a terrible cost. Such is the fallout of yet another broken US promise.
resulting war crimes? he has never shown an interest in listening, and its not like we are sending in Sadler and Benson to arrest him. The ICC has as much effect as handing Steelers linebacker TJ Watt a soccer yellow card - you are just going to get beat up.
Putin and his defacto 'USSR' is a problem not going away unless it is dealt with via multi-national military moves, or internally.
Such kindness! They should be showered with flowers as they enter the cities they have freed from oppression!
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Originally Posted by Sprawling_Homeowner
That's actually a feasible scenario - "Ukronazis" have not, to my knowledge, been fully purged from areas where they had been in place from where they then committed war crimes by deliberately sniping and shelling Russians in Donbass.
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If Russia is invading because of these neo nazis taking shots at them in Donbass, which I get they would be upset about, why are they all the way on the other side of the Country trying to take over Kyiv?
If Russia is invading because of these neo nazis taking shots at them in Donbass, which I get they would be upset about, why are they all the way on the other side of the Country trying to take over Kyiv?
Because the neo-Nazis in Donbass take orders from and are subordinate to the folks running the show from Kiev, and the folks in Kiev also know where all the U.S./western-supplied weaponry is or at least was supposed to be distributed/cached.
Russia wants to take all that stuff out, just as it wants to kill (or at the very least, arrest, disarm, and imprison if not execute the "Ukronazis").
EDIT: you said "take over Kiev." I wouldn't say they want to make Kiev's government surrender so they can then abolish it, the way North Vietnam captured Saigon and dissolved the South Vietnamese government. Putin doesn't want to annex Ukraine the way Germany annexed Austria or the way Japan annexed Korea. It wants change, but it doesn't want to hold authority over Ukraine as was the case in the days of the Soviet Union.
we can fly an E3 jamming lookdown radar signals from WITHIN poland, to protect aid convoys and us built - internationally sold aircraft operating from around Lviv with american, Uk and israeli ex-pilots, who are lining up by the 100's.
Give the Ukrs a couple dozen patriot batteries and diesel pickup to tow them with...since the whole idea of 'do not supply weapons to a combatant wisdom' has flown out the window, I submit, it no longer makes a difference. up the ante. Im paying for it, so .... do it.
Agree, Patriot missiles would help a lot.
Give them a quick crash course how to use them and bring 'em on in
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