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Old 03-23-2022, 02:07 PM
 
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https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...fd4911577b669a

NATO estimates 7,500 - 15,000 Russian KIA. The entire Afghan-Soviet war (can I call it a "war" without hurting anyone's feelings?) had a death toll of 15,000 Soviets. It's also 5-10% of the deployed force. No wonder morale may be flagging a bit.

 
Old 03-23-2022, 02:16 PM
 
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Do you believe they have run out of bombers and fighters that could devastate an entrenched enemy?
It looks as if one of Russia's problems is that the enemy isn't entrenched. You can have the best ground attack aircraft in the world, but thy need to know where to go.

As I may have said a couple of thousand posts back, plan A appears to have been a decapitating strike. Grab Kyiv airport, roll into the seat of government with some of your tough airborne guys, announce new government. That fell on its rearside, and probably cost a lot of the most motivated and well-trained forces.

Plan B: Combined-arms operation, pushing your armored columns quickly though the enemy defenses and hit their rear areas before they can close on your flanks. Turned out that the conscripts had sold their fuel to buy vodka, and that the Ukrainians knew the script and took out the logistics elements. No air supremacy. Electronic warfare appears to not work. Signals security appears to be a mess.

So, plan C: Advance at a snail's pace and with high losses until you can line up artillery in range of large, immobile targets like apartment blocks, and start firing. This seems within the Russian military's competence level so far.
 
Old 03-23-2022, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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It looks as if one of Russia's problems is that the enemy isn't entrenched. You can have the best ground attack aircraft in the world, but thy need to know where to go.

As I may have said a couple of thousand posts back, plan A appears to have been a decapitating strike. Grab Kyiv airport, roll into the seat of government with some of your tough airborne guys, announce new government. That fell on its rearside, and probably cost a lot of the most motivated and well-trained forces.

Plan B: Combined-arms operation, pushing your armored columns quickly though the enemy defenses and hit their rear areas before they can close on your flanks. Turned out that the conscripts had sold their fuel to buy vodka, and that the Ukrainians knew the script and took out the logistics elements. No air supremacy. Electronic warfare appears to not work. Signals security appears to be a mess.

So, plan C: Advance at a snail's pace and with high losses until you can line up artillery in range of large, immobile targets like apartment blocks, and start firing. This seems within the Russian military's competence level so far.
And keep in mind tomorrow it will be a month since Kyiv was doomed to fall within 72 hours....LOL
 
Old 03-23-2022, 02:59 PM
 
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The siege around cities such as Mariupol leave many Ukrainians in danger of dying, as Russian invaders are not letting people leave. International rescue organizations rely on drones to bring medical supplies to the needy. Russian invaders even steal these life-saving supplies.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBV-FG0fg9c
 
Old 03-23-2022, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The siege around cities such as Mariupol leave many Ukrainians in danger of dying, as Russian invaders are not letting people leave. International rescue organizations rely on drones to bring medical supplies to the needy. Russian invaders even steal these life-saving supplies.
Contrast that with this video of lines of cars leaving Mariupol and citizens wandering about freely.
https://youtu.be/L6UzUMrEEXM?t=66

And here is another one where he's talking to Mariupol refugees at a clinic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhLB5Wp1lGs
 
Old 03-23-2022, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I wonder how long the Russians will hold out here, there are approximately 10,000 troops cut off from all supplies. If these guys surrender or are mowed down, this will be a huge humiliation for Putin.

https://twitter.com/mhmck/status/1506730528363458579

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It is not necessary for Ukrainian defenders to encircle the Russian invaders northwest of Kyiv as they have all major roads to Belarus under fire control. The enemy is cut off from any supply of food, fuel and ammunition that could sustain its army in the Bucha/Hostomel area.
 
Old 03-23-2022, 03:48 PM
 
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It's even more bizarre to think Russian don't know how to handle Spring weather!

The Russian army is conscripted - every male serves two years.

Many of those boys are from Siberia - you know, where winters are really cold.

In 1812, Napoleon lost Russian because his supply lines to Moscow were broken during winter.

Russian know more about snow, freezing rain, cold weather than you know.

They know exactly how to handle severe cold and that entails having the proper gear. The complaint is that they weren't provided the tools and gear needed to handle it for extended periods.
 
Old 03-23-2022, 03:48 PM
 
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At least Putin let him leave.....not so much in this case

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/...96461743968263

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Bloomberg: Russia’s Central Bank governor tried to resign over war in Ukraine, Putin rejected.

Elvira Nabiullina, who has held the post for nearly 9 years, tried to quit when Putin ordered a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Bloomberg reported, citing unnamed sources.
You're Not Fired!
 
Old 03-23-2022, 03:54 PM
 
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This is just insane. It was recorded in April 2021.

2021 Uncanny Predictions of Ukraine war by Russian MP Nevzorov


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OutvYSl_TLc
He's right.

Regardless of how this turns out, Russia loses.
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