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Old 03-25-2022, 10:34 PM
 
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I suggest using Webster Dictionary for word definitions - https://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/Terrorism



The use of violence or the threat of violence, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political goals.
  1. Resort to terrorizing methods as a means of coercion, or the state of fear and submission produced by the prevalence of such methods.
  2. The act of terrorizing, or state of being terrorized; a mode of government by terror or intimidation.

Some modern sources redefine the word to some new meanings... such as anything that violates US Criminal laws is defined as "terrorism". But I suggest to stick to good old definitions.

Now, if you look at Ukrainian sources - I see lots of videos with threat of violence, against captured soldiers, against Russians in general, against any civilian who dares to collaborate or even takes food from occupants. Combine it with the routine shelling of residential areas as they retreat. Tell me if _these_ actions won't match the old definition of terrorism and if Ukrainian regime is not using terrorist tactics right now?

So it was for all these years since Maidan 2014. Also, add to it, the human memories of Ukrainian Nationalists' methods of terrorizing their political opponents with sadistic methods of murdering (burning alive would be considered a mild version of it).

There's none of it, coming from Donbass. Malaysia Air flight taken down? Probably a mistake (however it is still questionable who did it), but because no one attempted to put any demands before or after the strike - it definitely was not an act of a terrorism.

Being a crime-ridden area, not controllable by International Organizations? Sorry, there's very little respect for those spies there. Again, DNR could be called separatists, rebels, even criminals, but they were never terrorists. And I insist that Ukraine is a terrorist state at least since 2014.

I agree with both of your assessments.

And as any terrorist state, now Ukraine is involved in the full-blown false propaganda/disinformation war it seems - just check my previous video.

 
Old 03-25-2022, 10:35 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Russians are admitting defeat now...scaling back to Donbass region now. Basically they are admitting that they can't take over Ukraine. Ukrainians are still going to fight for Donbass though. They aren't conceding.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMEvulMeSI
Have you seen the video clip where the civilian people of Kherson play "Bayraktar" for the Russians as they protest against the occupation? I just posted it tonight in the Europe forum - the song is a banger:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...bayraktar_for/

Here's the video for the song with English subtitles - you may have to click on the hyperlink as I believe the embedded version from YT will be blocked (for inappropriate language):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6rZD6njd-s
 
Old 03-25-2022, 11:00 PM
 
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Why the Mujahedeen were insurgents putting up resistance. The Ukrainian Army is a national army defending territory with superior technology to the Russians. Even if pre war we all expected the conventional defense forces to collapse with Ukrainian resistance cells just harassing occupiers at this point, while hoping the Russians quit like the Soviets did when faced with the Mujahedeen refusing to give up.

Perhaps the Iran versus Iraq War or Yom Kippur War would be a better guide of expected casualty rates.
What are you saying?
 
Old 03-25-2022, 11:05 PM
 
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Serbia tried something similar to this argument when they refused to acknowledge Kosovo. Didn't work so well there, either.
Clarify, please.
 
Old 03-25-2022, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Of course you do.

And if wishes were horses...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emzo43RBTZw



This is just one of many videos of what happens with Russian captives. You might say, they deserved it, or not. And there are many many more videos like that. But compare it with Russian videos with Ukrainian captives... Different messages in those videos. Which side decides to put fear into the other side?
 
Old 03-25-2022, 11:40 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emzo43RBTZw



This is just one of many videos of what happens with Russian captives. You might say, they deserved it, or not. And there are many many more videos like that. But compare it with Russian videos with Ukrainian captives... Different messages in those videos. Which side decides to put fear into the other side?
Frankly, there shouldn't be any videos, as all are in violation of Geneva conventions.
 
Old 03-25-2022, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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The last war USA won was in Yugoslavia. And I can recall 2 major losses in the 21st century - Iraq & Afghanistan. So, USA have nothing to be proud of... Maybe you're right, and I should not say that Russia is as powerful as the USA, maybe I should say USA is as powerful as Afghanistan.
Iraq & Afghanistan are the Black Knights of the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs
 
Old 03-26-2022, 12:14 AM
 
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Iraq & Afghanistan are the Black Knights of the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs
Just a flesh wound. Lol.

I'm not sure the comparison is accurate though.
 
Old 03-26-2022, 12:15 AM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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From Moscow City Duma deputy:

Checklist of next countries for denazification -

Kazakhstan
Moldova
Poland
Lithuania
Latvia
Estonia

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/...eStKMOTn1aoNoQ

So many here on CD over the last several weeks have proposed that Russia's empire building has only just begun with Ukraine - if the tweet is true, looks like it was an accurate prediction.
 
Old 03-26-2022, 01:41 AM
 
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From Moscow City Duma deputy:

Checklist of next countries for denazification -

Kazakhstan
Moldova
Poland
Lithuania
Latvia
Estonia

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/...eStKMOTn1aoNoQ

So many here on CD over the last several weeks have proposed that Russia's empire building has only just begun with Ukraine - if the tweet is true, looks like it was an accurate prediction.
Surprise.

Surprise.
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