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Old 03-30-2022, 05:05 AM
 
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Originally Posted by erasure View Post
So while being on "Kremlin payroll" - did he set this camp up in his backyard?



Did he hire all these people to talk about Mariupol and Azov crimes as well?


That Ukrainian government saw it fit - the civilians used as the live shields for Ukrainian military?


Or you just can't accept things for what they are, because they go against your narrative?

That people indeed are free to choose where they want to go and yes - some are planning to move to Russia on their own accord, and not because they are "kidnapped" or "forced into the labor camps" as this lying mouth Vice President Irina Vereshuk in Kiev is insisting?
You are going against the narrative. And the narrative is that Russia is bad and Ukraine is good, no matter what the evidence is. Every time and all the time. So do not use your mind to think. Just accept the correct narrative.

There is no such thing as Ukrainian Nazis. Russian Nazis, yes. Ukrainian troops would never use their own people as human shields. Never. As for the Russians, they are burning and pillaging Ukrainian cities, doing everything they can to kill as many Ukrainians as possible. Every city is being flattened by the Russians. Thermobaric and neutron missiles are also being used to deliberately kill people, both military targets and civilian, such as hospitals, schools, and child nurseries. Perhaps tactical nukes will be used. The Ukrainian military is powerless to stop this carnage.

Yes, and the Ukrainians that the Russians didn't bother to kill are being forcibly taken to Russia and put into heinous concentration camps where they are sadistically tortured.

The Russians are lying about their "special operation". It is not about protecting the breakaway republics and Crimea. It is not about destroying the awful biolabs. It is not about replacing the Ukrainian regime. The real reason is that the Russians want to kill, kill, kill! They want to conquer Ukraine! And keep going! They want to take all of Europe if they can, killing all the way!

Remember, Vladimir Putin is a sadist who loves killing and taking over other countries. He is a merciless despot who has to be stopped.

But don't worry, Biden and Zelensky have a plan to stop him. Remember, the Russian troops don't have modern military equipment, they are untrained and demoralized since most of them are conscripts. So the superbly trained and led valiant Ukrainian forces are pushing the Russians out of Ukraine. How the Russians got that far in the first place is a mystery. Many Russian soldiers are throwing away their weapons and surrendering. Russian tanks are being turned over to the Ukrainian military faster than you can say "tank", and many Russian deserters are running back to Russia. Very soon, the Donetsk and Luhansk traitors will be forcibly reunited with Ukraine and punished. And so will the Crimea. Then all will be well.

Remember, if you disagree with the narrative, you are nothing but a Putin Puppet. No exceptions!

 
Old 03-30-2022, 05:50 AM
 
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e) Plan E = sign cease fire and continue economic war against the West. No gas through Ukraine. No oil, nor coal to Ukraine. Let the West pay for its rebuilding (without economic strongholds of Donbass). That would be very brutal against European countries.
India and Russia working to launch a rupee-ruble trade agreement that circumvents Western sanctions and weakens the dollar’s global standing.

In a move that will surely shake up the global economy, the two countries are working on establishing a trade agreement that removes the U.S. dollar from the equation. CNBC reported that in order to continue conducting business with one another, India and Russia are going to implement a rupee-ruble trade mechanism.

This mechanism will eliminate the countries’ reliance upon the SWIFT telecommunication network to conduct trade with each other, and it will provide them with an additional layer of security that prevents Western nations from meddling in their business affairs.

Once Putin is satisfied with the outcome of the invasion and has taken control of the western part of Ukraine, he will focus his attention (along with China) on destroying the almighty dollar. That's where the real war lies.
 
Old 03-30-2022, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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All I know is that they have access to the internet (if they have a cell phone, that is). My friend was able to tell me they are safe out of Mariupol and moving towards Russian border. I am not sure if he got a place to stay in DPR, or decides to move further. He planned to actually travel through Russia to Poland and then to Germany and apply for refuge status in USA.

sir, have you ever seen a map?
 
Old 03-30-2022, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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Putin should be facing a judge and jury.

first off, europeans take this whole war crime stuff pretty seriously. IF there ever WAS an opportunity to have Putin face the music, they would take it and he will swing in a public square somewhere. ALSO, since the nazi high brass pretty much took the cowards way out (but at least it condemned their souls to hell if you believe that stuff) Joe Goebbles knew his number was up AS WELL. All the propagandists, who promoted this war as valid via the endless stream of synthetic BS, are eligible. The US extradites. gladly. and if they cannot get to putin, someone is gonna have to satisfy the bloodlust.


Just sayin. (or alternatively: told.you.so.)
 
Old 03-30-2022, 06:44 AM
 
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2) Being Jewish does not make you anything special.

I see you have never been married to a jewish woman.
 
Old 03-30-2022, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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You are not keeping up. Why is that?

On March 16th the most recent round of help announced was an additional $800 million in security assistance to Ukraine, bringing the total U.S. security assistance committed to Ukraine to $1 billion by that week, and a total of $2 billion since the start of the Biden Administration. The assistance takes the form of direct transfers of equipment from the Department of Defense to the Ukrainian military to help them defend their country against Russia’s barbaric unprovoked and unjustified invasion.

The latest $800 million assistance package included:

800 Stinger anti-aircraft systems;
2,000 Javelin
1,000 light anti-armor weapons
6,000 AT-4 anti-armor systems;
100 Tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems;
100 grenade launchers
5,000 rifles 1,000 pistols, 400 machine guns, and 400 shotguns;
Over 20 million rounds of small arms ammunition and grenade launcher and mortar rounds;
25,000 sets of body armor;
25,000 helmets.

In addition to the weapons listed above, previous United States assistance under the Biden administration committed to Ukraine included:

Over 600 Stinger anti-aircraft systems;
Approximately 2,600 Javelin anti-armor systems;
Five Mi-17 helicopters;
Three patrol boats;
Four counter-artillery and counter-unmanned aerial system tracking radars;
Four counter-mortar radar systems;
200 grenade launchers and ammunition;
200 shotguns and 200 machine guns;
Nearly 40 million rounds of small arms ammunition and over 1 million grenade, mortar, and artillery rounds;
70 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs) and other vehicles;
Secure communications, electronic warfare detection systems, body armor, helmets, and other tactical gear;
Military medical equipment to support treatment and combat evacuation;
Explosive ordnance disposal and demining equipment; and
Satellite imagery and analysis capability.

That is by no means a complete accounting, to date, but only what I could compile in a quick search of newspapers and U.S government websites. Most of this info has been published and talked about daily and across all spectrum of media since Putin started telegraphing his intent to erase Ukriane and subjugate its citizens. Additionally the U.S, under the Biden administration, has been soundly and widely praised for its assistance to Ukraine as well as Biden himself for his tireless efforts at strengthening and uniting America's European allies and renewing the NATO sense of purpose and resolve.



March 16 2022 U.S. Security Assistance for Ukraine
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...e-for-ukraine/

March 24 2022 FACT SHEET: The Biden Administration Announces Additional Humanitarian, Development, and Democracy Assistance to Ukraine and the Surrounding Region
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...unding-region/

More than a Billion $ in humanitarian assistance which includes medical.

well while it is true lethal aid from the US is and has been making it across, we are late to the table. congress approved $14B. and it is trickling. First $1b over the last month and then another $1b just 'approved'. I can see why the Ukrs are wondering why the whole 14 cannot flow now - but I think the admin is taking a rather cautious wait and see if they are still there approach...you dont wanna ship it all over at once, only to have much of it captured. we showed just how effective the javelin is. and they do have some captured. we dont want them used on us, or given to islamic terrorists....another Putin fav.


When the first russian btn was photographed at the border, the aid we WERE giving previous admin, should have restarted. Waiting till january when the obvious was imminent was a mistake. That is why NATO defied the admin. Our leadership in the UN and NATO has been greatly diminished which is why Boris is arming the ex blocs and Macron is doing the negotiation. Both have had it with this admin and say so frequently. IT is also why the ex blocs are accepting of UK assistance and still are resistant to US influence.



so while I agree with you on the surface, using WH sources to gloss over the ineptness of our current leadership is no different from the stuff the debs and tammys cite, and get castigated for.


what was it Sonny Corleone once said? "you are not a wartime consigliere' damn apt w.r.t. the admin.


Our current admin is the most clueless - inept is the word I use - in the history of the nation. This is exactly the wrong time to have to suffer it. The WH comms are spending more time this year 'splainin and walking stuff back. And just because Biden holds a presser and states he didnt say stuff, that we have on video, does not mean we re-write reality and go with his version. no one else on the planet is, why should we? Kamala chose the exact start date of the illegal invasion by pissin off putin with her words (salad). Biden may have set the date for hot war 3 last week with his words. Cant sweep this under the rug.
 
Old 03-30-2022, 07:35 AM
 
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You are going against the narrative. And the narrative is that Russia is bad and Ukraine is good, no matter what the evidence is. Every time and all the time. So do not use your mind to think. Just accept the correct narrative.

There is no such thing as Ukrainian Nazis. Russian Nazis, yes. Ukrainian troops would never use their own people as human shields. Never. As for the Russians, they are burning and pillaging Ukrainian cities, doing everything they can to kill as many Ukrainians as possible. Every city is being flattened by the Russians. Thermobaric and neutron missiles are also being used to deliberately kill people, both military targets and civilian, such as hospitals, schools, and child nurseries. Perhaps tactical nukes will be used. The Ukrainian military is powerless to stop this carnage.

Yes, and the Ukrainians that the Russians didn't bother to kill are being forcibly taken to Russia and put into heinous concentration camps where they are sadistically tortured.

The Russians are lying about their "special operation". It is not about protecting the breakaway republics and Crimea. It is not about destroying the awful biolabs. It is not about replacing the Ukrainian regime. The real reason is that the Russians want to kill, kill, kill! They want to conquer Ukraine! And keep going! They want to take all of Europe if they can, killing all the way!

Remember, Vladimir Putin is a sadist who loves killing and taking over other countries. He is a merciless despot who has to be stopped.

But don't worry, Biden and Zelensky have a plan to stop him. Remember, the Russian troops don't have modern military equipment, they are untrained and demoralized since most of them are conscripts. So the superbly trained and led valiant Ukrainian forces are pushing the Russians out of Ukraine. How the Russians got that far in the first place is a mystery. Many Russian soldiers are throwing away their weapons and surrendering. Russian tanks are being turned over to the Ukrainian military faster than you can say "tank", and many Russian deserters are running back to Russia. Very soon, the Donetsk and Luhansk traitors will be forcibly reunited with Ukraine and punished. And so will the Crimea. Then all will be well.

Remember, if you disagree with the narrative, you are nothing but a Putin Puppet. No exceptions!
Correct narrative...agree with pretty much every word...only the emoticon
is wrong...I think you selected it by mistake....

Excellent post BusinessManIT.....for once I agree with you (I usually don't).
Finally your dilligent research is paying off.

And here I was thinking you were a Russian Troll....I guess I was wrong...
 
Old 03-30-2022, 07:43 AM
 
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All I know is that they have access to the internet (if they have a cell phone, that is). My friend was able to tell me they are safe out of Mariupol and moving towards Russian border. I am not sure if he got a place to stay in DPR, or decides to move further. He planned to actually travel through Russia to Poland and then to Germany and apply for refuge status in USA.

Let him know he's going the wrong way. Russia is east of Mariupol, Poland is west. And no commercial air between Russia and Poland now.
 
Old 03-30-2022, 07:44 AM
 
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Let him know he's going the wrong way. Russia is east of Mariupol, Poland is west. And no commercial air between Russia and Poland now.
new russian secret weapon...compasses just spin...
 
Old 03-30-2022, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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and since there is a war going on...it appears russia has started shelling a couple of its small towns near the border to create a false flag of 'invasion' to justify the use of a tactical nuke on kyiv.
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