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Old 03-31-2022, 10:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by davidt1 View Post
We have been hearing some Russian propaganda about Ukraine's volunteer fighters not being allowed to leave and other things.They are allowed to leave.

That was not some "Russian propaganda" but statements made by the Westerners themselves - about the situation on the ground.

They thought that they came to Safari to hunt the Russians but got into a jam with Ukrainians instead.
Ukrainians were trying to hand guns even to foreign students, making them to "defend the cities," while they were trying to get hell out of there.



(And yes, it looks like the person complaining didn't have the proper military experience.)


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Not only that, people are being turned away for not meeting the requirements.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLFg8iq0KZY
That's already the damage control in place.

Western governments come to realization that they can't just send the wild *warring hordes* in that direction.
Not only there will be too many inexperienced dead people, but this kind of people can actually do something stupid, that might escalate situation even more.

 
Old 03-31-2022, 10:58 PM
 
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Sure.

First segment on any MSM: look at how destroyed Ukraine is!! see all the rubble!! towns are completely destroyed!!

Next segment on any MSM: russia is losing!! they're toast!!

Whatever ...
Yes, incredible inconsistencies. You can't have it both ways.
 
Old 03-31-2022, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Sure.

First segment on any MSM: look at how destroyed Ukraine is!! see all the rubble!! towns are completely destroyed!!

Next segment on any MSM: russia is losing!! they're toast!!

Whatever ...
Correct.

First segment: “Russia is withdrawing! Putin lost!”

Next segment: “Putin threatens to turn off European gas! Europe braces for disaster!”
 
Old 04-01-2022, 04:02 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Rocko20 View Post
Correct.

First segment: “Russia is withdrawing! Putin lost!”

Next segment: “Putin threatens to turn off European gas! Europe braces for disaster!”
Pretty good breakdowns from a vet:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igq2fqa7RY4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REBRCVqnbiA
 
Old 04-01-2022, 04:15 AM
 
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Reading this morning that Russian forces are beating a hasty retreat from NW of Kyiv back to Belarus.

It is likely they will regroup and redeploy in eastern Ukraine.

Wondering if it also means carpet bombing and/or chemical weapons in this area.
 
Old 04-01-2022, 05:45 AM
 
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Sure.

First segment on any MSM: look at how destroyed Ukraine is!! see all the rubble!! towns are completely destroyed!!

Next segment on any MSM: russia is losing!! they're toast!!

Whatever ...


Both can be true at the same time, and from all appearances---due to credible journalists and ethical media sources---they both indeed are at this moment.

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Old 04-01-2022, 06:13 AM
 
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Both can be true at the same time, and from all appearances---due to credible journalists and ethical media sources---they both indeed are at this moment.

You just said that Fox News has credible journalists and ethical media sources.

Pigs are flying, folks.
 
Old 04-01-2022, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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Reading this morning that Russian forces are beating a hasty retreat from NW of Kyiv back to Belarus.

It is likely they will regroup and redeploy in eastern Ukraine.

Wondering if it also means carpet bombing and/or chemical weapons in this area.

well another false flag on a fuel depot in russia out of the reach of any Ukrainian weapon...so that small tactical nuke on Kyiv to get Zlelenskyy looking more and more real. Us state dept issued a stronger leave immediately yesterday
 
Old 04-01-2022, 06:35 AM
 
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Jesus you guys forget that Germany, France, Poland, Great Britain, Turkey and other are providing very effective weapons and supplies to Ukraine. The USA of course helps, and helps a lot, but you make it sound like it is the only one helping. It's not and it is not Biden's or the USA's call what happens there.
Great Britain is shipping weapons into Poland for Ukraine. Turkey is providing drones. France is only supplying defensive weapons (whatever that is).

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Old 04-01-2022, 06:45 AM
 
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well another false flag on a fuel depot in russia out of the reach of any Ukrainian weapon...so that small tactical nuke on Kyiv to get Zlelenskyy looking more and more real. Us state dept issued a stronger leave immediately yesterday
Not sure if it is a "false flag"....you mentioned "out of the reach of any Ukrainian weapon"

The fuel depot that was hit was near the Russian city Belgorod ...approx 40 kms (or 25 miles) north of the Ukranian-Russia border. According to what I've read, they hit it by using two Ukrainian airforce helicopters....helicopters can travel that distance of course, the question is how they were able to fly into Russian airspace and not get shot down.
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