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Old 02-26-2022, 02:38 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Originally Posted by lepoisson View Post
So what do we do, let Russia take Ukraine, Moldova, Poland, and other countries because we fear they will use nuclear weapons?
As long as they’re non-NATO. Yes.

I thought the left was tired of being the “military police of the word” and that it’s “none of our business” or “defense contractors are greedy” when Biden withdrew troops from Afghanistan?

Either you want troops in every country fighting every war, or your don’t, make up your mind liberals.

 
Old 02-26-2022, 02:47 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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I'm worried that Putin is now hopped up on drugs and / or has some terminal diagnosis and he won't care about starting World War 3.
Then maybe you’ll be more careful when electing your leaders next time.

So you want America to occupy Ukraine for the next 20 years like we did in Afghanistan?
 
Old 02-26-2022, 02:49 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Putin isn't Communist, Marxist, or Collectivist - he's an Imperialist
Does Imperailism mean Wired to the Moon.....
 
Old 02-26-2022, 03:09 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Their only chance is widespread supplies of more anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.

The javelin anti-tank missiles put an infantryman on par with a tank an can destroy one at three miles.

A problem is that "Phase 2" is to begin this weekend, in which an armada of helicopters is forming in Belarus to transport airborne troops.

Civilians have no chance against a conventional army and providing untrained civilians with firearms is akin to the Volkstrum in ww2, who were slaughtered and contributed nothing to the defense of Germany.
Did you forget how we got our independence those Green mountain boys fought the .British.
 
Old 02-26-2022, 03:11 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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I'm sure Xi and Kim are richer then Putin. None of these Communist Dictators are any different than Putin. It can be argued that none of them are Communist too. But it's true that all countries that call themselves Communist, Marxist,, or Socialist become Repressive Dictatorships
Your surety means little - you are incorrect.

Putin's salary as President is about $100K/year in dollars yet he is worth much much more - unknown actual net worth. An estimate in the Washington Post a few years ago put his estimate NW at $200 B, which would make him the richest person by quite a bit and some think it may be even higher now.

Xi makes about $20 K/year as President of China but best estimates of his net worth is somewhere in the range of $1 B to $1.7 B - less than 1% of what Putin is worth.

Even if you count Kim as "owning" all of North Korea, the entire North Korean economy is less than 2% than that of Russia at $29 B vs $1.5 T for Russia -

Bezos earned a base salary of $88,840 but his wealth from Amazon stock grows about $9 B a month or almost 4 times the entire GDP of North Korea's economy in a year.
 
Old 02-26-2022, 03:15 AM
 
Location: Florida
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My GOD, my GOD, what an utterly irrationally absurd viewpoint to the all out max. Like it or not Tarotova, supporting Ukraine isn't worth going into fighting nuclear WW3 over. After all, listen here, right here and now, I live just 25 miles from the oil pipelines of the world where oil for the U. S. is stored in numerous huge tanks. It is surely a prime target for Russian nuclear missiles. So please, Taratova, please, please, quit trying to pick a nuclear war with Russia. Okay! Or is that too much to ask of you because you don't live anywhere near a target for Russian nuclear missiles?
Oh yes my posts are going to start world war 3 ..you're hilarious.

What will start world war 3 will be when the Putin military goes into any NATO country. Then NATO will have to step in. Biden knew about this military buildup for months and did nothing . By funded Putin's war chest by buying oil from Russia instead of allowing drilling here. That green New deal climate change is a hoax for control. They are idiots.
 
Old 02-26-2022, 03:18 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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It actually amazes me to watch men up to age 60 in Ukraine protect their country. You have to hand it to them for caring. We cannot keep our own borders protected in the US. How many of our soy-filled “men” would step up if needed today?
Ironically, we are kicking out thousands of active duty airmen, SEALS, infantry, and sailors for simply not injecting useless serum.
The people of Ukraine are united rather than divided as we Americans are. The stark contrast shows a world of difference.

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Old 02-26-2022, 03:26 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The people of Ukraine are united rather than divided as we Americans are. The stark contrast shows world of difference.
Thanks to Obama for dividing us. Calling us racist, hate for the police , total division dividing Us by class , race , color , sex, putting everybody in the category and it's all Trump's fault.
 
Old 02-26-2022, 03:44 AM
 
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Not at all. Those have the reach of conventional weapons, they would need to sail undetected for days to get within range. ICBMs and hypersonic are like 20 mins or less.
They “sail” undetected for months
 
Old 02-26-2022, 04:08 AM
 
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Im thinking VASTLY higher. Russia took Georgia in 2008 I think? And lost less then 200 dead on his side. It took 5 days, and they outnumbered Georgias full time military by 7-1 with the troops he used.

In 2014 when he took Crimea from Ukraine, and some of the eastern side of Ukraine he used a estimated 20-30K Russian troops, and another 30K or so of locals. Losing.....reportedly no Russian troops. vs a similiar sized opposition.

This is vastly different today. Ukraine has increased their military, and gotten a lot of weapons. And unlike Afghanistan, and other countries that Putin may have some experience with Ukrainians are putting up a strong fight. I believe they may get overwhelmed, but I also think this has already been on the worst case scenario side of things for Putin. Its gonna make Afghanistan look friendly.
The Ukrainians seem to be holding their own at the moment.

How long they can do this remains to be seen.

I believe they can do this.
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