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Old 04-10-2022, 02:32 AM
 
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Speaking of videos, there are videos of Russian soldiers raping Ukrainian toddlers floating around.

 
Old 04-10-2022, 03:30 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Another great video from Caspian Report. Basically, control of Ukraine, Moldova then then the Baltics are Russias ultimate goals. Any peace treaty or ceasefire, in the eyes of Russia, would only be temporary. If they can’t capture all of Ukraine now, they’ll simply try again down the road.

https://youtu.be/MkrLUFAcjH0

So the real question becomes, how does US/NATO figure out a long term peace still strategy?

Russia and China will never tolerate NATO or western friendly countries bordering their country.

I don’t see a solution, I think the world is in big trouble.
 
Old 04-10-2022, 03:35 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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whatever it takes to get rid of Putin..the old dictator needs to be retired (killed or captured)..out with the old, in with the new..who will it be?..
 
Old 04-10-2022, 04:24 AM
 
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whatever it takes to get rid of Putin..the old dictator needs to be retired (killed or captured)..out with the old, in with the new..who will it be?..

I hope Navalny. Yet he once made a joke basically hinting Muslims are cockroaches which by western standards means he is "literally Hitler" and should be de-nazified in accordance with Vlad Vladimovich Putin's views on people whiter than russians...like ukrainians:


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...tionalist-past
 
Old 04-10-2022, 05:03 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Another great video from Caspian Report. Basically, control of Ukraine, Moldova then then the Baltics are Russias ultimate goals. Any peace treaty or ceasefire, in the eyes of Russia, would only be temporary. If they can’t capture all of Ukraine now, they’ll simply try again down the road.

https://youtu.be/MkrLUFAcjH0

So the real question becomes, how does US/NATO figure out a long term peace still strategy?

Russia and China will never tolerate NATO or western friendly countries bordering their country.

I don’t see a solution, I think the world is in big trouble.
The best solution would be Russia's failure.
Russia may have dreams of taking the Balkans, but it is only a dream. Look at the difficulty they are experiencing in taking a republic of Ukraine. If reports are to be believed, there are units who refused to fight and we know there are units which have been destroyed.
Ivan the Terrible tried to take Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania and failed in around 1600; Stalin made satellites of them, but that only lasted 50 years.
Peter The Great took part of Sweden to establish St Petersburg around 1750 and that allowed Russia to become a sea power, and now we are seeing the end of all that. Not the Russia will lose St Petersburg somehow -they won't. What will happen, I hope, is the draconian sanctions against Russia will destroy them financially, as they cope with a recession/depression at home while fighting a needless battle with an unwilling, poorly disciplined army. Navies are in need of constant repair and Russia's navy will simply wither away.

Ukraine requested help from the world's commercial satellite companies and got it. There is no significant move the Russians can make that could be made in secret. The world may get a little hungry as the wheat fields in Russia and Ukraine go untended, but in the end the destruction of Russia will have been worth it.
May they never recover!
 
Old 04-10-2022, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I don't see Russia keeping this up for long on a $50 billion military budget, their GDP is about the same as Texas so how do they fund this. Already using antiquated and poorly maintained military equipment and begging for recruits for their poorly trained army.
 
Old 04-10-2022, 06:09 AM
 
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you are the only person on this thread....that actually watched it

obviously where it landed in Donetsk wasn't the target....

the Lieutenant that was interviewed said it was shot down but still managed to release the cassette element

shot down means it did not hit it's target....means Donetsk was not the target

and means Ukraine bombs Donetsk killing civilians is total bull crap

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The Russians bombs are painted green...

....the Ukrainians bombs are painted gray

That bomb is green...

That was a Russian bomb the Ukrainians shot down....and it crashed in the city...releasing it's cassette element

....this is a scam
Not obvious at all without knowing where in its flight trajectory it was shot down.
Accounts from the locals who have been experiencing 8 years of torment, and the fact that the US government is trying to censor this side of the story is much more plausible to corroborate Patrick Lancaster’s (among others) on the ground reporting.
 
Old 04-10-2022, 06:13 AM
 
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Might as well end sanctions when major countries, such as China and India don't join in. Might try ending sanctions as a condition for peace with a cease fire.
Ending this war quickly is the last thing the US wants.
The US wants to prolong this conflict as long as possible, even if it means the death of Ukrainian civilians.
 
Old 04-10-2022, 06:22 AM
 
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If only people knew how much communism is already in the US for decades.



Us Plebes will never really know anything.



If indeed UKR has been shelling Donbass/Luhansk region without ever taking any territory back, then they just doing it to cause sheer terror and make everyone miserable. That does sound like a legit reason to go in.

And it does not seem like RU has even touched the western half of the country like around Lyviv.
That’s precisely one of the reasons Russia invaded.
Some claim it was pre-empting a Ukrainian military attack that was supposed to occur in March but Russia has not released the intel yet so no official statement has been released.
 
Old 04-10-2022, 06:41 AM
 
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Not obvious at all without knowing where in its flight trajectory it was shot down.
Accounts from the locals who have been experiencing 8 years of torment, and the fact that the US government is trying to censor this side of the story is much more plausible to corroborate Patrick Lancaster’s (among others) on the ground reporting.
oh please.....it wasn't shot down 10 feet off the ground before it hit
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