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Old 02-27-2022, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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You ever hear that the simplest solution is usually the right one? Lots of conspiracy weirdos on this board

There certainly are. they have been buying Russia conspiracy theories for years now.
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Old 02-27-2022, 08:16 AM
 
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Yep. I don't buy anything that is being said. I keep saying, the CIA and Mossad are very cunning and if they wanted Putin dead, he'd be dead already. This is all being allowed to happen, or it's another Jussie Smollett incident. And I've already heard rumors that some of the footage that is being shown was from a video game and some others are from an old movie. The fact that the MSM is using this footage without properly fact checking it's credentials is concerning.



Correct. Over a million of fake news were reported already, as relevant to this operation. One needs to listen to both sides, Ukraine and Russia, with pen and map in hand, to have good idea, what's going on. Of course, both countries will present only "we are winning, the other side is dogs eating children" "news". This is how it was always done. ALWAYS. But maps do not lie.

Yes, hero pilot single hand destroying five Russian - much more advanced - jets is from video game. And, footage of "civilians" escaping certain death from bloody Russian troops has 1936 tank in the background. Most of those fakes are very sloppily done. Like armored vehicle, running over a passenger car. Old Strela 10 Soviet machine, not even in use in Russian military for decades.

What those folks forget that, as of now, every picture has its geolocation stamp and can be EASILY traced to where and when it was taken. But lay crowds don't know such technicalities like how much inversion tail from Kalibr is different from Book 2 missile one and, that civilian building, hit by that missile, was not in Kyiv, but in Syria. All that needs to be done is to put this up online with according tag, claiming something, et voila. Crowd is lamenting.
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Old 02-27-2022, 09:11 AM
 
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There certainly are. they have been buying Russia conspiracy theories for years now.
The US has entities that are pretty much devoted to doing terrible things in secret. The CIA, NSA, Secret Services, etc. These groups do horrible stuff that is so evil that they dont want any information about their activities shared with the people they supposedly protect. You want less conspiracy theories? Then keep less secrets.

A lot of the "conspiracy theories" turn out to be true. And a lot of them turn out to be false also but the bottom line is that the government does evil stuff and lies about it so we are left with no choice but to try to collect what information we can and form our own conclusions.
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Old 02-27-2022, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Correct. Over a million of fake news were reported already, as relevant to this operation. One needs to listen to both sides, Ukraine and Russia, with pen and map in hand, to have good idea, what's going on. Of course, both countries will present only "we are winning, the other side is dogs eating children" "news". This is how it was always done. ALWAYS. But maps do not lie.

Yes, hero pilot single hand destroying five Russian - much more advanced - jets is from video game. And, footage of "civilians" escaping certain death from bloody Russian troops has 1936 tank in the background. Most of those fakes are very sloppily done. Like armored vehicle, running over a passenger car. Old Strela 10 Soviet machine, not even in use in Russian military for decades.

What those folks forget that, as of now, every picture has its geolocation stamp and can be EASILY traced to where and when it was taken. But lay crowds don't know such technicalities like how much inversion tail from Kalibr is different from Book 2 missile one and, that civilian building, hit by that missile, was not in Kyiv, but in Syria. All that needs to be done is to put this up online with according tag, claiming something, et voila. Crowd is lamenting.
Yeah, I know. I also think it's interesting that the Ukraines begged Elon Musk for help with satellite and internet and I guess they didn't expect him to respond. And he did and is already sending Starlink over so they can get internet up again. And then as expected, you start hearing that the PM is ready to sit down again for talks and that Putin is planning on using his nukes. Seems to me this is all the MSM's doing because now that people can get real footage of what is going on, they won't be able to hide behind the fake crap much longer.
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Old 02-27-2022, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Propaganda and google translate just does not go together well.
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Old 02-27-2022, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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Don't be silly. He only needs surrender and country reboot. Current government can not possibly stay in place. And, consider your source, before wowing, please.

Remember, there are two stages to it:
1. demilitarization, what is going on right now.
2. denazification. Complete removal of all nazi/nationalsit elements in the country, what will take much longer
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This is the REAL plan of Russia.
Everything else is propaganda, fake news, speculations and moronic allegations.
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Old 02-27-2022, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Once Putin decapitates Zelensky and civilians are being executed in the street, NATO peacekeepers will start dropping daisy cutters on Russian forces.
Anyone carrying a weapon is considered an enemy combatant, not a "civilian".
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Old 02-27-2022, 08:05 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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2. denazification. Complete removal of all nazi/nationalsit elements in the country, what will take much longer.
Is Zelensky both an observant Jew and a Nazi?
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Old 02-27-2022, 08:36 PM
 
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Yes. Hitler must be removed. I've heard that Himmler is trying to negotiate a peaceful solution behind Hitler's back. I'd doubt Hitler will be happy with this. And what does this mean for the Waffen SS units? Will there be a breaking between the Waffen SS and Wehrmacht? At any rate, where is Rommel when you need him? Sipping schnapps?



You suck at humor.



anyway....



Bandera. Pretty much fits the bill with a red and black flag depicting blood and soil. Not really a secret. They are however obviously being manipulated, and are nothing but a convenient way to destabilize Ukraine. If they ever did get their "ethno" state, in 5 years they will be accepting refugee from the next project.
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Old 02-27-2022, 08:44 PM
 
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Is Zelensky both an observant Jew and a Nazi?

Well once again people just can't seem to understand one thing Nazis and Jewish nationals, aka Zionists have in common. Ukrainian nationalists wants Jews out of Ukraine. So do Zionists who want them in Israel.



So of course its possible if he is a working for a Jewish nationalist interests . Zionist Christians will all be wetting their pants with joy for the Lord draws near. They will soon be raptured and we sinners we be destroy in a nuclear holocaust . They don't want Jews in Ukraine either because its the Lord's will.





https://www.israel365news.com/152796...ove-to-israel/


Have to fulfill those bible prophesies.
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