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View Poll Results: Why did Putin invade Crimea and Ukraine when Obama and Biden were in office, rather than Trump
Putin wanted to attack when the weakest presidents were in office 78 92.86%
Putin wanted to attack when the strongest presidents were in office to reduce his chances of success 6 7.14%
Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-07-2022, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Did Putin withdraw from Crimea while Trump was in office? Must have missed that.
Trump claimed that Crimea belonged to Russia and wanted them back in the G8, we can see why Putin wanted Trump.
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Old 03-07-2022, 08:19 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Trump claimed that Crimea belonged to Russia and wanted them back in the G8, we can see why Putin wanted Trump.
Yet another lie from you. Trump never said that. Why are you constantly lying?
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Old 03-07-2022, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Yet another lie from you. Trump never said that. Why are you constantly lying?
Educate yourself, both statements are correct.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...mit-2018-6?amp

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52885178.amp
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Old 03-07-2022, 09:04 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Neither article cites a quote from Trump proving he said what you attributed to him. Post something that does.

Last edited by CaseyB; 03-08-2022 at 05:11 AM.. Reason: rude
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Old 03-08-2022, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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You apparently don't know that it is the military brass essentially running the show when it comes to military matters. They advise Trump AND Biden on what course of action to take and it's the President's call to go whatever route they advise to go or not. Trump worshipers are so blinded by their adoration of him that they cannot see the forest for the trees. The reason Putin didn't invade Ukraine was because Putin knew he had an idiot in the WH that he could manipulate any which way he wanted because he knew Trump worshiped him as the kind of dictator Trump aspired to being. Putin knew that he'd helped Trump get elected and that if he did it in 2016 he could probably do it again in 2020 and buy himself 8 years to keep Ukraine in his sights and at the same time build his gold reserves that he would use to finance the war with Ukraine once he couldn't get Trump elected anymore. of course reason prevailed in 2020 and Trump was booted out of office--NO FRAUD I would add (The BIG LIE) and Putin realized the time had come to take back Ukraine. Everybody who doesn't worship Trump can see all this. LOL

Putin was saving to fund an invasion instead of simply rolling his tanks over the border and confiscating Ukrain's wealth?
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Old 03-08-2022, 08:26 AM
 
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Liberals constantly blabber about Putin "owning" Trump and Trump being soft on Russia.

This idiotic position begs the simple question: Why did Putin invade Crimea while Obama was president and Ukraine when Biden was president?

Obviously, when one is hoping for a successful invasion, you would want to have the weakest opponents possible to insure success. If Trump and Putin were "friends", as lunatic dems contend, then invading both Crimea and Ukraine would have been SO MUCH EASIER when a "friendly" president was in office.

However, Putin chose correctly to invade Crimea and Ukraine when two VERY WEAK PRESIDENTS WERE IN OFFICE TO OPTIMIZE HIS CHANCES OF SUCCESS.

The facts speak for themselves. Putin did nothing while Trump was in office as he told Putin he would bomb Moscow. Tyrants do not fear racing baiting idiots and those who do combat with pronoun shaming. They fear credible, viable force. Putin correctly identified two of the worst, weakest presidents in US history to attack.
Mr. Trump & Mr. Putin were on the same page regarding NATO, political leadership in Ukraine, & undermining democracy.
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Old 03-08-2022, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Neither article cites a quote from Trump proving he said what you attributed to him. Post something that does.
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President Donald Trump told leaders at the G7 summit that Crimea is part of Russia because everyone there speaks Russian, according to diplomatic sources.

The Crimean peninsula was part of Ukraine before being invaded and annexed by Russia in 2014. The annexation led to Russia's expulsion from the G7. Before the summit, Trump told reporters he believed Russia should be let back into the G8.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...mit-2018-6?amp
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Old 03-08-2022, 09:37 PM
 
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“Update to limits to growth: Comparing the World3 model with empirical data
Gaya Herrington
First published: 03 November 2020
https://doi.org/10.1111/jiec.13084
Citations: 5

I conducted a data update to Limits to Growth (LtG), best known from the 1972 bestseller that forecasted a scenario of global societal collapse occurring around the present time if humanity did not alter its priorities.



The scenario that depicts the smallest declines, SW, is also the one that aligned least closely with observed data. Furthermore, one of the closest aligning scenarios, BAU2, shows a collapse pattern. The other scenario however, CT, shows only a moderate decline. At this point therefore, results indicate a slowdown and eventual halt in growth within the next decade or so but leave open whether the subsequent decline will constitute a collapse. Global society does not have to settle for CT as a best-case scenario, however. Although SW tracks least closely, a deliberate trajectory change brought about by society turning towards another goal than growth is still possible. That window of opportunity is closing fast.”

https://advisory.kpmg.us/content/dam...ublication.pdf

Did you catch that date? Probably not. Did you read the link? You probably should.

What items are on the long list of things that occurred in 1971-1972?

Angela Davis goes to trial where the father of Critical Race Theory forms an all black team to defend her.
Gloria Steinem the CIA change agent who became buddies with Davis and Derrick Bell and who Kissinger was fond of starts Ms. magazine.
World Economic Forum is created.
Nixon meets with Mao and tells him he knows how his revolutions was different.
Nixon abolished Bretton Woods.
Limits to Growth book is published for the Club of Rome’s Predicament of Mankind Project.

The Metaverse should make a lot more sense as to its purpose and timing to you all.

You all don’t seem to really be paying all that much attention.

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Updated June 3, 2016

Black Lives Matter, this is what we've been waiting for," Davis said to Steinem.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/angel...b0eb20fa0d900c

LOL… You all still don’t get it.
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Old 03-09-2022, 06:43 AM
 
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Yet another lie from you. Trump never said that. Why are you constantly lying?
Dems/libs have to lie, as the truth is too damning and painful for them to accept.

In their far left echo chambers, in a contest of "one upmanship", some lib will make an outrageous lie and the rest in the hive will cling to it like it is the Gospel truth, never bothering to check it out.

Keep in mind all of the things libs have believed. It is laughable

1. The Russian hoax was true
2. Biden did not take money from China or Ukraine
3. Hunter Biden did nothing wrong in his business dealings
4. The Clintons never killed anyone
5. Jeff Epstein died of suicide
6. Drilling more oil does not reduce prices
7. Global warming is real and is the biggest threat to humanity
8. Blacks don't commit more crimes than whites
9. The US is the most racist nation in the world (obviously they have never traveled)
10. Biden didn't cause inflation by infusing trillions of dollars into the economy
11/ The 2020 election was legit
12. Obama got good grades and is a genius
13. nancy pelosi's stock trades are legit and don't involve insider trading
14. The Clintons, Obama , and Biden came by their money legitimately, while Jimmy Carter (who was a millionaire before entering the White House) is worth a fraction of each.
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Old 03-09-2022, 07:13 AM
 
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The point is Russia did invade Crimea while Obama was President and Ukraine when Biden was President. Left leaners can't leave the word "Trump" out of anything. Why? Can't admit their liberal votes are wrong.
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