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Old 02-27-2022, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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You can't believe anything on the boob tube or internet anymore. All partisan drivel. . CNN is having everyone believe the Ukranians are pushing back Russian Troops? Yea.. I seriously doubt that
No the Ukrainians are giving them a fight. Here is a good twitter feed to follow, it reports both sides victories and defeats. They seem conscientious about their sourcing. Russia has taken some substantial hits in this

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497922624495751173

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497937557329489921

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Wow that Russian VDV column in Bucha was destroyed apparently by artillery or MLRS fire, including BTR-82A, BMD-2, R-419MA1, BTR-D, and other vehicles.
https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/stat...33140799090692

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The Ukrainian flag was lowered in Melitopol as the city is captured by Russian Armed Forces
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Old 02-27-2022, 07:39 PM
 
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Russia won’t allow Ukraine to be independent.
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You mean be a NATO puppet? NO they won't. Just like the U.S. won't let Mexico be a Russian puppet on their border.
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Old 02-27-2022, 07:47 PM
 
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No the Ukrainians are giving them a fight. Here is a good twitter feed to follow, it reports both sides victories and defeats. They seem conscientious about their sourcing. Russia has taken some substantial hits in this

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497922624495751173

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497937557329489921



https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/stat...33140799090692

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Twitter? LOL most of the photos you can't tell what side or any damage. Ukraine just agreed to meet Russia on occupied Russian territory. We shall see.
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Old 02-27-2022, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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You mean be a NATO puppet? NO they won't. Just like the U.S. won't let Mexico be a Russian puppet on their border.
Doesn’t matter. What matters is trying to get a cease fire worked out in the meantime.
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Old 02-27-2022, 07:52 PM
 
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I don’t like the proxy war this is turning into. Russia will escalate, the EU and NATO will respond until it’s a full scale war over a non NATO country? Zelensky needs to come to an agreement with Putin very soon and commit to not joining NATO in return for staying in office and Ukraine remains independent from Russian control. Zelensky can be a hero and Putin can have an out with the commitment to not join NATO

Putin wants Ukraine back in the fold. He does not want the independent of Russian control.
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Old 02-27-2022, 07:58 PM
 
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I don’t like the proxy war this is turning into. Russia will escalate, the EU and NATO will respond until it’s a full scale war over a non NATO country? Zelensky needs to come to an agreement with Putin very soon and commit to not joining NATO in return for staying in office and Ukraine remains independent from Russian control. Zelensky can be a hero and Putin can have an out with the commitment to not join NATO
Zelensky is already a hero, will be remembered forever in Ukrainian history. If you don’t like war, you should be trying to get the madman Putin out of office and install a peaceful regime in Russia.
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Old 02-27-2022, 08:07 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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Zelensky is already a hero, will be remembered forever in Ukrainian history. If you don’t like war, you should be trying to get the madman Putin out of office and install a peaceful regime in Russia.
Maybe if they could come to an agreement about not joining NATO, it would help Putin to save face for the time being. I'm listening to radio stations from the UK because I want to get a more balanced view and there are actual people calling the radio station and they have just been on the phone with relatives in Ukraine.

Putin is threatening nukes. But maybe if they called the war off for now and settled, if we wait a while some hero will finally kill Putin. I think killing him may be the only way out because he is off his rocker, worse than he ever was before, they are saying.
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Old 02-27-2022, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Twitter? LOL most of the photos you can't tell what side or any damage. Ukraine just agreed to meet Russia on occupied Russian territory. We shall see.
That is what is so different about this war. People have smart phones and it is literally being live streamed. Some of it is fake and alot of it is real. This one is the most bizarre for me

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status...85623225200640

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Multiple videos on social media of Russian military out of fuel, food and stuck on highways
This is a comment in the thread about the translation in the video

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Soldiers say they are out of gas. Driver offers to tow them back to russia. Everyone laughs. Russian soldiers ask for news on how they are doing in war. Driver tell them that Ukraine is winning, russians are surrendering and implies that they should too.
This doesn't look doctored to me....and corroborates the reporting of major problems in Russia supply lines.
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Old 02-27-2022, 08:12 PM
 
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A thermobaric bomb is not regarded as a "weapon of mass destruction". Also known as a fuel-air-explosive (FAE) bomb, it simply makes a huge bang, an effect similar to a very large dynamite (or other conventional explosive like ANFO, Amatol, C4 etc.) bomb. While dynamite bombs carry both the fuel and oxidizer in the bomb case (dynamite etc. can explode in a vacuum, or under water), an FAE bomb carries only the fuel, no oxidizer.

When used, an FAE bomb splits open and its "fuel" is vaporized into the air. Then a device sparks, and the "fuel" from the bomb case and oxygen from the outside air combine to make a huge blast... but not a nuclear blast.

FAE bombs are notable because, for their weight and size, they make a much bigger bang than an equivalent-size or -weight dynamite bomb. A large dynamite (or other conventional explosive) bomb can destroy a building and damage the buildings next to it. An equivalent-sized FAE bomb can level an entire city block, plus more nearby.

The U.S. used FAE bombs in Afghanistan when they were chasing bin Laden through the mountains. The largest was called MOAB, meaning "Massive Ordnance, Air Blast". Soldiers used the acronym to call it the "Mother of All Bombs".

It could destroy a huge amount of stuff. But it still isn't considered a "weapon of mass destructions" like nukes or poison gas are.
MOAB's are not FAE bombs. They use tritonal, a conventional explosive, and lots of it.
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Old 02-27-2022, 08:16 PM
 
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Doesn’t matter. What matters is trying to get a cease fire worked out in the meantime.

Well Ukraine will meet Putin and try make a deal. Leave the punk a$$es NATO out. They are weasels. They prop up Ukraine and start all of this and when #hiat hits the fan, they run for cover and won't fight for Ukraine.



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