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For those with such a high IQ the Keystone pipeline's purpose was to supply a short cut to refineries rather than overland to their coastline for shipment to China. I am glad for your concern for the environment, you should also be concerned about the environmental damage done in Sands and the high carbon content of their oil. But who cares as long as we can get cheap gas.
Holy crap you actually wrote this.
What a total complete failure of logic and reason
The oil is being produced, will continue to be produced, and will continue to be transported. You can either let it flow down a pipe, or you can waste tens of millions in fuel and resources hauling it in trucks and trains in extremely risky ways.
Nov. 8, 2013: An oil train from North Dakota derailed and exploded near Aliceville, Alabama. There were no deaths, but an estimated 749,000 gallons of oil spilled from 26 tanker cars.
July 5, 2013: A runaway Montreal, Maine & Atlantic Railway train that had been left unattended derailed, spilling oil and catching fire inside the town of Lac-Megantic in Quebec. Forty-seven people were killed and 30 buildings burned in the town’s center. About 1.6 million gallons of oil was spilled. The oil was being transported from the Bakken region of North Dakota, the heart of an oil fracking boom, to a refinery in Canada.
Dec. 30, 2013: A fire engulfed tank cars loaded with oil on a Burlington Northern Santa Fe train after a collision about a mile from Casselton, North Dakota. No one was injured, but more than 2,000 residents were evacuated as emergency responders struggled with the intense fire.
Jan. 7, 2014: A 122-car Canadian National Railway train derailed in New Brunswick, Canada. Three cars containing propane and one car transporting crude oil from western Canada exploded after the derailment, creating intense fires that burned for days. About 150 residents were evacuated.
Jan. 20, 2014: Seven CSX train cars, six of them containing oil from the Bakken region, derailed on a bridge over the Schuylkill River in Philadelphia. The bridge is near the University of Pennsylvania, a highway and three hospitals. No oil was spilled and no one was injured. The train from Chicago was more than 100 cars long.
April 30, 2014: Fifteen cars of a crude oil train derailed in Lynchburg, Virginia, near a railside eatery and a pedestrian waterfront, sending flames and black smoke into the air. Nearly 30,000 gallons of oil were spilled into the James River.
Feb. 14, 2015: A 100-car Canadian National Railway train hauling crude oil and petroleum distillates derailed in a remote part of Ontario, Canada. The blaze it ignited burned for days.
Feb. 16, 2015: A 109-car CSX oil train derailed and caught fire near Mount Carbon, West Virginia, leaking oil into a Kanawha River tributary and burning a house to its foundation. The blaze burned for most of week.
March 10, 2015: Twenty-one cars of a 105-car Burlington Northern Santa Fe train hauling oil from the Bakken region of North Dakota derailed about 3 miles outside Galena, Illinois, a town of about 3,000 in the state’s northwest corner.
March 7, 2015: A 94-car Canadian National Railway crude oil train derailed about 3 miles outside the northern Ontario town of Gogama. The resulting fire destroyed a bridge. The accident was 23 miles from the Feb. 14 derailment.
May 6, 2015: A 109-car Burlington Northern Santa Fe crude oil train derails near Heimdal, North Dakota. Six cars exploded into flames and an estimated 60,000 gallons of oil spilled.
July 16, 2015: More than 20 cars from a 108-car Burlington Northern Santa Fe oil train derailed east of Culbertson, Montana, spilling an estimated 35,000 gallons of oil.
Nov. 7, 2015: More than a dozen cars loaded with crude oil derail from a Canadian Pacific Railway train prompting the evacuation of dozens of homes near Watertown, Wisconsin.
June 3, 2016: A Union Pacific train hauling crude oil derails in Oregon’s Columbia River Gorge, sparking a large fire.
Wrong. You guys have been twisting this daily here on CD. Russia wasn’t invading, bombing, and killing Ukrainians while Trump was in office so now there’s incentive to stop importing 800,000 barrels a day from them and giving them $2.4 billion per month while Biden brags about sending $1 billion to Ukraine.
We could open that pipeline to Canada back up along with those refineries this bozo admin shut down last year for the additional 10% we wouldn’t be getting from Russia.
But I don’t really care about their borders. I’m more concerned with ours and these traitor hypocrite politicians that pretend to care about Ukraine while ignoring our lack of border security and immigration law enforcement.
That Canadian pipeline was never for our consumption- check your facts. Most of it is for imports.
Since 2008, the American oil industry has undergone a major revolution. We figured out how to produce oil from shale deposits via horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracking. From 2008 through 2020, U.S. oil production increased by 143%, and now the United States is a net oil exporter and the world’s largest oil producer.
America gets most of its crude imports from Canada, Mexico and Saudi Arabia. Smaller countries in Latin America and West Africa also typically send more crude to the U.S. than Russia does.
That Canadian pipeline was never for our consumption- check your facts.
Take your own advice and check your facts. The Keystone XL pipeline system supplies US refineries and an oil distribution hub. It can go anywhere from there including domestic consumption.
Even if none of the oil is ultimately used in the US, which is false, it is still going to come through the US one way or another. If not through a pipe then through hundreds of thousands of trucks and train cars
Independence in the context of energy is a sliding scale of import/export and multiple sources.
Not a zero sum equation based solely on petroleum.
I fully understand the assertion, I simply disagree with it.
If we cannot produce enough of every single energy source that we consume - and we cannot and never have in the last ~70 yrs - we're not energy "independent".
KeystoneXL, once completed, could carry about 830K barrels/day. Historically the gulf refineries that KeystoneXL would supply have exported about 67% of their products.
830K x .33 = >275K barrels/day.
Is that enough?
lol, gotcha. I knew you would fall for it.
historically, the steelers will beat dallas in the 3rd super bowl meeting, since they won the first 2 meetings.
yes, the keystone XL will, as you now agree, transit a russian oil replacement JUST FINE.
whether or not we decide to export it, or keep it, is up to the admin in charge. we at present have no obligation to export a single drop. (research why!)
but the fact remains, it was stated the tar sands oil could not and as we now know and you agree on, tar sands can replace russian oil 5 times over.
to be honest, when you talk about oil use in this country etc, run your numbers by me first, then we wont have to have so many corrections pages. deal?
historically, the steelers will beat dallas in the 3rd super bowl meeting, since they won the first 2 meetings.
yes, the keystone XL will, as you now agree, transit a russian oil replacement JUST FINE.
whether or not we decide to export it, or keep it, is up to the admin in charge. we at present have no obligation to export a single drop. (research why!)
but the fact remains, it was stated the tar sands oil could not and as we now know and you agree on, tar sands can replace russian oil 5 times over.
to be honest, when you talk about oil use in this country etc, run your numbers by me first, then we wont have to have so many corrections pages. deal?
I didn't "fall for" anything. I knew the numbers going in, just as, I assume, you did.
No corrections needed, but your delusions of grandeur are amusing.
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