Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-20-2010, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Atlanta native 40 years too long
288 posts, read 543,094 times
Reputation: 77

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by nvxplorer View Post
What recession? Reno was booming during the Carter years. The recession hit in '82. That would be Reagan, not Carter.
What recession? LOL, the recession in which Nixon was the first president to use "socialist price and wage controls" and the recession in which president ford urged americans to wear a button tiltled "WIN" for whip inflation now.

LOL

Republicans destroyed the 70's economy
reagan/bush sr. quadrupled our debt in 12 years
bush doubled our debt and destroyed our economy

thanks guys
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-20-2010, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Orlando
8,276 posts, read 12,857,391 times
Reputation: 4142
Quote:
Originally Posted by swagger View Post
One example... Iran was holding our people hostage for over 400 days and he didn't have the cajones to do anything about it. As Reagan was being sworn in, they released the hostages, because they KNEW that Reagan would go after them.

I was too young to have followed his presidency at all (I was 9 when Reagan was sworn in), but I remember the Iran hostage crisis and how Carter did virtually nothing to end it.

Google JIMMY CARTER FAILURE and you'll get a lot of stuff to peruse...

apparently you were too young to recall the covert operation that ended in failure on the Iran desert. In fact he did take action and lost Archibald Cox as his Sec of State over the decision.

Carter was probably the only honest president we have had. I'd go outon the limb and say we won't ever hear of him cheating on his wife in office or out.

I would argue that he was a bad president as I don't accept that POV. He had inflation, gas more than doubled... as a result of Nixon and Kissinger developing OPEC so they could afford our weapons. He diidn't fly around in Air Force one when things got tough, nor did he sit idle when the country was under attack reading books to tots. We have had some far worse presidents.

regan took gas out of the inflation index... but we still had horrible inflation. carter didn't play the politics game well. He didn't make the backroom dirty deals to get things done. I would take that type of president over the ones that line the pockets of their supporters any day.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2010, 01:56 AM
 
418 posts, read 487,705 times
Reputation: 149
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViewFromThePeak View Post
Guns and butter that Volcker had to fix with 20% interest rates so as to purge the rottenness from the system.

Carter was a convenient scapegoat.
Exactly! Everyone always get's it messed up in their head, it all comes down to jobs and money. Nobody cares about wars and other countries.

All the reckless spending during the Vietnam war caused massive inflation that accumulated to astronomical levels during the late 70s. Serious stagflation could only be cured with high interest rates, which started late in Carters presidency.

It wasn't until a few years in with Reagan that the high interest rates got inflation under control. What morons don't understand is that once it got under control, Volcker dropped the rates (like a Keynesian) setting us up for the rescission during Bush's presidency. Hence Bush's loss of the 2nd term.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2010, 05:05 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
68,329 posts, read 54,373,658 times
Reputation: 40731
Quote:
Originally Posted by nilssson View Post
Jimmy Carter was an officer on a nuclear sub. He had no degree in anything akin to nuclear physics, but his son does. Jimmy was a peanut farmer, his family's business.
He is a nice man but he is weak. He struggled under a terrible recession and very high interest rates under his administration. Iran toyed with him. He was basically ineffective. The tyrants of the world like him, which speaks volumes to those who can read between the lines. Trying to negotiate with a terrorist is like trying to negotiate with a rapist.

It was Reagan selling weapons to the tyrants and GWB negotiating with the terror sponsoring Libyan government yet it's Carter who's the bad guy?

Last edited by burdell; 02-20-2010 at 06:10 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2010, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
12,481 posts, read 10,220,937 times
Reputation: 2536
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHICAGOLAND92 View Post
Someone please enlighten me.. I wasn't even thought of when Jimmy Carter was president, but people on here consistently compare Obama to him in a negative way..

What made him such a bad president?
the economy
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2010, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
22,229 posts, read 17,851,724 times
Reputation: 4585
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHICAGOLAND92 View Post
Someone please enlighten me.. I wasn't even thought of when Jimmy Carter was president, but people on here consistently compare Obama to him in a negative way..

What made him such a bad president?
Jimmy Carter was too intelligent.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2010, 05:44 AM
 
4,559 posts, read 4,100,369 times
Reputation: 2282
I'll argue that if we had followed more of Carter's leadership, a lot less American soldiers would be dead in Iraq, the twin towers would not have been blown up, among other things. I bet our cars would have gotten a lot better gas mileage.

Carter wanted us to get along in the world as another country. Reagan acted like America was the only country.

Reagan also drove the debt skyward. Much like Obama is now. Carter didn't.

National debt by U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Carter also encouraged energy conservation, something that we seem real concerned about now.......hmmm maybe he was right on a few things.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/...ps_energy.html

He got a lot of things wrong, I won't argue that. But if we had followed the path he was trying to lay out, instead of the one Reagan laid out before us, I think we'd be better off as a population, and as a nation. Healthier, less debt ridden, and more energy independent.

Last edited by odinloki1; 02-20-2010 at 05:54 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2010, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
24,510 posts, read 33,305,373 times
Reputation: 7622
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyboy2008 View Post
What recession? LOL, the recession in which Nixon was the first president to use "socialist price and wage controls" and the recession in which president ford urged americans to wear a button tiltled "WIN" for whip inflation now.

LOL

Republicans destroyed the 70's economy
reagan/bush sr. quadrupled our debt in 12 years
bush doubled our debt and destroyed our economy

thanks guys
During Reagan's two terms, the Democrat-controlled Congress spent, on average, 2.8% more than Reagan asked for and a cumulative 24.5%. Every balanced budget proposal Reagan presented was declared DOA by Tip O'Neil.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2010, 01:54 PM
 
3 posts, read 2,319 times
Reputation: 10
cater was good......... he was the only honest president and the only one who talk about Palestine
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-20-2010, 01:55 PM
 
3 posts, read 2,319 times
Reputation: 10
he was honest honest honest and honest
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top