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You realize that the 'agreement' to not go into NATO was verbal right? You never make a verbal agreement...
Plus Zelensky recently said he does not wannt to join Nato anymore. But Putin is still going.
If they pass Nato, it's global mass suicide. Get drunk, get high, say goodbye...
Zelensky has not explicitly stated that he will never try to join NATO and, more importantly, NATO hasn't given assurances that it would not entertain a Ukrainian bid to join. On the contrary, NATO has said the opposite.
They even admit it's NATO's fault for the destabilization of Ukraine back in 2014.
And I was wrong about my view on NATO. I thought it was designed so that the European countries as a collective have military strength to put a stop to any invasions from an outside country's military. Seems that NATO is just a bunch of yes men to the United States war mongers.
Maybe you're too young to remember a war in Europe and other places starting in 1939 and not ending until 1945 leaving much of Europe in ruins and 70-80 million people dead. It was called World War II, and the United States led the creation of NATO in Europe.
NATO was created to stop the expansion of Russian and communism after WW2. The USSR collapsed in the 1980s. It is no longer needed. Let the Europeans fend for themselves.
Europe responded immediately to help us on September 11, 2001 because of NATO article 5.
Their help was neither necessary nor consequential for our war effort. As I and others have stated, NATO is a lopsided alliance where the brunt of the responsibility in true wars with nuclear powered nations would be held by the more powerful members of the alliance (i.e. the US, UK, France, etc.).
What benefit do we as a country (we being the US) truly get from NATO? The benefits seem to be pretty lopsided toward the non-nuclear armed countries.
As much as I like to trash the UN, remaining a part of that body--and in particular remaining a part of the Security Council--is particularly important for the US. As a permanent member of the Security Council with veto authority, we can stop potentially dangerous actions by the Security Council on behalf of the UN.
Excellent question.... you sound like a Trump guy....an America first guy....an anti globalist... a secure the borders guy and let's worry about our own problems. I could not agree more. NATO has outlived its usefulness.
Like I said in a previous post, the democrats/progressives were asking the same damn question a year ago. And they obviously hate Trump.
NATO was created to stop the expansion of Russian and communism after WW2. The USSR collapsed in the 1980s. It is no longer needed. Let the Europeans fend for themselves.
The French have been campaigning for this for years, indeed they shut US bases in France back in the 1960's and left NATO for over 40 years, before rejoining back in 2009.
EU leaders have announced their intention to collectively rearm and become autonomous in food, energy and military hardware in a Versailles declaration that described Russia’s war as “a tectonic shift in European history”.
What emerges may well be a new European Defence Force, with it's own stockpile of nuclear weapons, and it may well one day replace NATO.
However it may not be as friendly or as understanding towards the US as NATO, and it will inevitable be much less influenced by the US, who would have to request the landing of military aircraft or docking of military ships in European ports, and it would see a decline in US influence and operational capabilities, in an increasingly uncertain world.
It may also become something the US regrets, as beyond Europe and the Anglosphere, there are only a handful of real American allies.
The British would be the possible exception, as they have closer links to the US and Anglosphere, and would likely try to expand five eyes from intelligence in to other defensive areas, as a further option to a European wide defence force.
NATO membership ties the US to war, article-5 says so.
What a dumb concept, a country obligated to go to war for the good of
some other country.
US should leave NATO. Oh no, forget that, some day we may need Bulgaria to
step-in an save the US!!!!
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