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Old 03-12-2022, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Biden will go down in history as a sissy. Weak , can't make decisions because the marxist leftists are making them for him. They rather enrich the communist nations to produce gas while killing our economy and jobs. Think deep folks.. Biden is no friend of Americans or Ukraine... Biden is woke and wants us broke..




They even put green energy money into the bill for Ukraine. Never let a crisis go to waste. Biden knows during the Obama years billions was wasted on green energy. I am wondering if they are getting kick backs and are hiding the money as it flows into their greedy hands.


Even Musk said , get our oil going. Start producing now.
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Old 03-12-2022, 03:27 PM
 
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The risk with sending weapons is that many of them could wind up in the hands of Russians forces, or separatist groups.

Already did.
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Old 03-12-2022, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Russia has a reserve force of 2 million.

Ofcourse they have the upper hand.
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Old 03-12-2022, 03:31 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Let's face the facts...

1. Much of the Ukraine military was defeated in the first 48 hours of Russia's military operations.
Most of Ukraine's aircraft, much of their armor, and military bases were knocked out in precision airstrikes.

2. Ukraine's airbases have been disabled and they can no longer operate aircraft.

3. President Zelensky had to call for foreign volunteers and civilians to take up arms because Ukraine's military was barely functional after the initial onslaught, and there were mass desertions among Ukraine troops.

4. As of right now, the remnants of the Ukraine military, along with foreign volunteers, are waging a guerilla style war against Russian convoys.

5. But the reality is that there isn't much fighting going on at all. That's why there is a lack of actual combat footage from this conflict. Compared to the invasion of Iraq in 2003, in which we saw plenty of actual combat footage, the Ukraine war has given us very little combat footage, despite cell phones & cheap cameras being more widespread than ever before. Aside from small pockets of Ukraine resistance attacking the occasional Russian convoy or firing a stinger at Russian helicopters, there isn't much else going on.

6. Putin has slowed down his advancing military in hopes of forcing Ukraine to make a deal. If Putin has to send his troops into downtown Kiev and other major cities, it likely will result in a massive loss of life. Putin wants to avoid this scenario.

7. There was a Russian convoy many miles long North of Kiev that sat there for a whole week and was never touched by Ukraine forces. This was a prime target but Ukraine simply did not have the ability to attack this convoy. Their military is barely functional.

8. Whatever losses Russia incurred were mostly incurred during the first week of fighting when Ukraine still had aircraft operational and could attack Russian targets.

9. The foreign volunteers (many are NATO military vets) who've joined the fight in Ukraine are going to find out the hard way what it is like to face a modern military power. Their previous experience fighting Iraqi peasants & Taliban armed with AK-47's & RPG's cannot prepare them for the brutality of facing aerial attacks by Russian jets and attack helicopters, and having to go up against Russian tanks & armored vehicles. These foreign volunteers will have zero air cover or armor to support them.

A British veteran who volunteered in Ukraine and who barely managed to escape alive sums it up quite well:

"I’ve never experienced firepower like that, I don’t think anyone of this generation ever has."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...raine-26432156


This conflict is mostly a foregone conclusion, Russia will probably force Zelensky to make a deal, recognizing Crimea and the Donbas as Russian territory, and agreeing not to join NATO.
confusing.
if hardly any fighting is going on, how can it be the most horrifically brutal fighting ever?
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Old 03-12-2022, 03:33 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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confusing.
if hardly any fighting is going on, how can it be the most horrifically brutal fighting ever?
He/She is a Russian 'bot', I wouldn't believe a word they say.
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Old 03-12-2022, 03:34 PM
 
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confusing.
if hardly any fighting is going on, how can it be the most horrifically brutal fighting ever?
Conflicting information. Someone is lying and providing staged propaganda footage. But time will bear out who is telling the truth.
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Old 03-12-2022, 03:39 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Originally Posted by VikingsToValhalla View Post
Let's face the facts...

1. Much of the Ukraine military was defeated in the first 48 hours of Russia's military operations.
Most of Ukraine's aircraft, much of their armor, and military bases were knocked out in precision airstrikes.

2. Ukraine's airbases have been disabled and they can no longer operate aircraft.

3. President Zelensky had to call for foreign volunteers and civilians to take up arms because Ukraine's military was barely functional after the initial onslaught, and there were mass desertions among Ukraine troops.

4. As of right now, the remnants of the Ukraine military, along with foreign volunteers, are waging a guerilla style war against Russian convoys.

5. But the reality is that there isn't much fighting going on at all. That's why there is a lack of actual combat footage from this conflict. Compared to the invasion of Iraq in 2003, in which we saw plenty of actual combat footage, the Ukraine war has given us very little combat footage, despite cell phones & cheap cameras being more widespread than ever before. Aside from small pockets of Ukraine resistance attacking the occasional Russian convoy or firing a stinger at Russian helicopters, there isn't much else going on.

6. Putin has slowed down his advancing military in hopes of forcing Ukraine to make a deal. If Putin has to send his troops into downtown Kiev and other major cities, it likely will result in a massive loss of life. Putin wants to avoid this scenario.

7. There was a Russian convoy many miles long North of Kiev that sat there for a whole week and was never touched by Ukraine forces. This was a prime target but Ukraine simply did not have the ability to attack this convoy. Their military is barely functional.

8. Whatever losses Russia incurred were mostly incurred during the first week of fighting when Ukraine still had aircraft operational and could attack Russian targets.

9. The foreign volunteers (many are NATO military vets) who've joined the fight in Ukraine are going to find out the hard way what it is like to face a modern military power. Their previous experience fighting Iraqi peasants & Taliban armed with AK-47's & RPG's cannot prepare them for the brutality of facing aerial attacks by Russian jets and attack helicopters, and having to go up against Russian tanks & armored vehicles. These foreign volunteers will have zero air cover or armor to support them.

A British veteran who volunteered in Ukraine and who barely managed to escape alive sums it up quite well:

"I’ve never experienced firepower like that, I don’t think anyone of this generation ever has."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...raine-26432156


This conflict is mostly a foregone conclusion, Russia will probably force Zelensky to make a deal, recognizing Crimea and the Donbas as Russian territory, and agreeing not to join NATO.
Russia thought it would take over the Ukraine in two days! Instead they've got nowhere and because militarily they've been so sh*t Putin keeps threatening to 'press the button'!
Even if Russia does eventually take over the whole country it loses, its army can't even invade let alone 'hang on' to power even if it gets it!! And even if it somehow did then it will turn into a bloody guerrilla warfare where Russian soldiers will continually be ambushed (see Afghanistan). And EVEN THEN Russia loses because now it is a Pariah state, its population are once again cut off from the outside world, the economy is tanked and world 'brands' are abandoning Russia at a rate of knots! Just like when Russian's suffered Communism Russians are going to be stuck in Russia without news from the world, they'll be queuing two hours for a loaf of bread and driving around in Trabant's! What a f*ckin mess, Putin is an idiot!

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Old 03-12-2022, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Putin's not an idiot, he doesn't want to occupy -- he wants to force Ukraine to make a deal on his terms.
He's surrounding the cities to cut them off from supplies and applying pressure till they finally agree to his terms.
Yes, he is.

Sanctions will be around for quite awhile. Diplomacy to remove will be very slow moving.
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Old 03-12-2022, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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The U.S. doesn't want to lose the Ukrainian government they put into place which Russia doesn't approve of. After all this is what it's all about.
Exactly.

The U.S. is going out of its way for Ukraine to keep the pro-western government in Ukraine and apparently to cover up a lot of corruption.

There could be more that we don't know as well.
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Old 03-12-2022, 03:46 PM
 
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He/She is a Russian 'bot', I wouldn't believe a word they say.
Lots of Russian bots on here.
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