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Old 05-22-2008, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania USA
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A close friend, a Woman, had been with a company as an Executive, for over 25 years. She was laid off. She was 60.

A woman. 60 years of age. She had her MBA. But, tough market out there.

She went back to school - full time - dedicated to getting first her Masters in Psychology / Counseling, then a Doctorate in same.

The demand for Licensed Counselors, who are OLDER is evidently unbelievable.

She now has her own, very lucrative, private practice. Is helping people (which she was always doing before - for free) and is making a very nice mid range 6 figure income.

OBTW - she is now 70 and having a ball

Where there is a will, there is certainly a way. You have to look for it though - and, be open minded.
Good post, good points, thanks!
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:28 AM
 
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Tell yourself that most people think like you.
By adopting a more optimistic, positive, energetic view you multiple your chances of getting back on track again.
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:37 AM
 
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This article caught my eye this morning and it sure does show which way the country is going. I'm a late "boomer" being vintage '61, and after working over thirty years about half active duty military (and still in the reserve component with yet another deployment coming up) and the other half in the civilian sector I am really concerned. I followed all the rules and went to college, served my country, contributed into my own private retirement fund, etc., now just to see my age and that my cohorts being held against me. Then you see the younger XYZ whatever generation grumbling with resentment about the benefits that the boomers will draw. Hey, I feel concern for all, but it's not my fault I was brought onto the planet when I was. I worked, followed the rules, and now due to age and other factors I am having difficulty physically, so it sure does seem that all the education, experience, and work paying into the system will be for naught. Again, I really feel concern for those who see their efforts and toil essentially being disparaged, but having sons ages 21 and 27 I really am concerned for what the future holds for them and especially for any kids if they ever end up having any.

I agree, I did the same except for military service. Younger generations can grumble all they want but the pittance I'll get from SS ...I E A R N E D.
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:45 AM
 
Location: At my computador
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Well..., it looks like all you young turks will just have to euthanize all us old farts to pave the way for a new generation of old farts!
Nah, the collapse of the dollar and the peaking of oil is going to make you consider doing it yourself.

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I agree, I did the same except for military service. Younger generations can grumble all they want but the pittance I'll get from SS ...I E A R N E D.
You earned the right to pick my pocket? So what makes you different from the Revolutionary War vets, Civil War vets, WWI vets and vets from the smaller wars prior to WWII?

How do you conclude, if you earned it, that the next gens owe you?... besides through a sense of entitlement?

Either way, you can justify it all you want. The reality is that it's over.
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:50 AM
 
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I followed all the rules and went to college, served my country, contributed into my own private retirement fund, etc.,
You didn't follow all the rules. You followed a set of psuedo-rules that were contrary to American values of freedom.

You had an obligation to resist socialism. Instead, you stayed in the herd and left your children and grandchildren with a system that doesn't work. You stayed in the herd when in the 70's and 80's the system was at the brink. Now, after taxes have been raised again and again to keep it going, we're at the end of it and you think you played by the rules?

The rules are that democracy puts out fires and having a system that requires maintenance is dead-ended in a democracy. The rules are that when freedom is threatened, as is the case with the property infringement by SS, you resist.

The rule is that a politician isn't any brighter than any of us so you don't ask those clowns to handle your retirement because you're just as capable... Instead you asked the cat to watch the canary and you p'n'moan because the cat did what it always does: spent the money on something else? That's how government works and you think you followed the rules? Come on buddy...
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:00 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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You earned the right to pick my pocket? So what makes you different from the Revolutionary War vets, Civil War vets, WWI vets and vets from the smaller wars prior to WWII?


They EARNED the right to have what they were promised.

What did YOU do to ensure your freedom to sit at a keyboard griping? Fight a lot for freedom did ya?
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:05 AM
 
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They EARNED the right to have what they were promised.
It was a promise to themselves. How is my generation responsible for the promise they made to themselves?


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What did YOU do to ensure your freedom to sit at a keyboard griping? Fight a lot for freedom did ya?
Grew up with a father who died in Viet Nam and a Grandfather who couldn't walk because of a Korean land mine. There wasn't anything to fight during my time.
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:16 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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It was a promise to themselves. How is my generation responsible for the promise they made to themselves?
It was a promise from the government of the people of the country they went to war for. IF you'd prefer not to be a citizen of that country you're perfectly free to leave, one of those rights they fought for.




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Grew up with a father who died in Viet Nam and a Grandfather who couldn't walk because of a Korean land mine. There wasn't anything to fight during my time.

And my father fought in WW II. While I agree that Vietnam was an exercise in futility from the start I will not blame those who answered the call.
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:24 AM
 
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It was a promise from the government of the people of the country they went to war for. IF you'd prefer not to be a citizen of that country you're perfectly free to leave, one of those rights they fought for.
THE PEOPLE ARE THE GOVERNMENT!!! If the government promised them anything, it was them making a promise to themselves and now it's time to take responsibility for making a promise that couldn't be kept without oppressing following generations.

As far as leaving goes, my beliefs are consistent with what this country was founded on. If anyone should be leaving, it should be you socialists.


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And my father fought in WW II. While I agree that Vietnam was an exercise in futility from the start I will not blame those who answered the call.
Neither would I, but I sure will blame those of the previous generation for cooperating in the continuation of socialism that is causing our economy to stagnate through excessively high taxes.

Take responsibility!... Oh wait, you have to... you can't find a job when you get older because business is stalling...
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:33 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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THE PEOPLE ARE THE GOVERNMENT!!! If the government promised them anything, it was them making a promise to themselves and now it's time to take responsibility for making a promise that couldn't be kept without oppressing following generations.

As far as leaving goes, my beliefs are consistent with what this country was founded on. If anyone should be leaving, it should be you socialists.

As well as defense the country was also founded with the government being tasked to "promote the general welfare".


So what's that mean in your world?

And:

Ever fly on a plane built to safety regulations?

Drive on a Federal highway?

Eat meat you have a reasonable expectation is disease free?

Take a medicine you have a reasonable expectation won't killyou and is effective as claimed?

If you did you're taking advantage of socialism, right?
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