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both and neither. they are a business and they seek to maximize profit. ITs just that instead of selling widgets they sell lifesaving medications. But we must never forget money is their primary concern as a business. And like any business you weigh the negatives vs the positives of products which you release. In their case this can involve side effects, effectiveness and death which cause income loss to effectiveness and profit.
I wouldn't know. I don't need any prescription medications, so my doctor and I don't discuss them.
However, it's no secret that statins are dangerous drugs. You're not telling anyone what they already don't know.
Statins are some of the most profitable medications. So obviously the average Doc is not aware of that study.
Take Pfizer's Lipitor (atorvastatin) :
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None of the current 10 top selling drugs has yet come close to generating the $141bn of revenues racked up over its lifetime by Lipitor for US drug giant Pfizer, according to Simon King, executive editor of FirstWord Pharma.
Better living? By all accounts, Americans are less healthy than before. Metabolic and autoimmune disorders have grown exponentially.
A lot of things that are the cornerstones of modern medicine are being proven false. Take the notion that lowering "bad" (LDL) cholesterol is the path to reducing cardiovascular disease. We have a whole host of drugs known as 'statins' for this that people take to reduce their cholesterol. Problem is, they really don't work.
This study is being kind. Statins take more years off your life than they add.
Pharmaceutical companies have been instrumental in pushing through new drugs and garnering medical consensus. I bet your Doc never heard of this study!
Listen I try to avoid interacting with you so much as possible. It appears to me you are smart guy who sees deceit and conspiracy everywhere.
There are many - dozens at least - research studies that show statins decrease the risk of stroke and cardiovascular events in patients 75 and younger.
Save yourself some time and scroll down to the consolidated results of 29 studies.........
"We identified 29 eligible trials involving a total of 80 711 participants. All-cause mortality was significantly lower among patients receiving a statin than among controls .........."
Lipitor has made so much money because A). it clearly works very well B). it's been available for nearly 26 years.
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There are many - dozens at least - research studies that show statins decrease the risk of stroke and cardiovascular events in patients 75 and younger.
I'm aware there are studies showing benefits. Lipitor and other Statins wouldn't be approved otherwise. There is also an issue with who does the studies. As you know, it's the pharmaceutical companies. And there have been many lawsuits etc over the years showing big pharma has often withheld data showing their drugs are toxic.
Case in point is another Pfizer drug: Torcetrapib. They withheld data showing it killed more people in the intervention arm vs the placebo arm.
But let's get back to Statins:
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Lipitor, an anti-cholesterol medication, can do more harm than good for some patients. Thousands have filed lawsuits against Lipitor’s manufacturer, Pfizer, for developing type 2 diabetes after taking the drug.
Though there have not been any Lipitor settlements yet, Pfizer has a history of settling lawsuits for millions of dollars, as seen below.
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$1 BILLION SETTLEMENT FOR BAYER STATIN (2005)
Bayer was hit with 3,000 lawsuits for its own statin, Baycol. Plaintiffs alleged that the drug caused rhabdomyolysis, a condition that erodes muscle tissue. Severe rhabdomyolysis can eventually cause kidney failure, paralysis, and even death in some patients.
Bayer settled in 2005 for a massive $1 billion sum.
The study I linked to earlier is actually a meta-analysis of 35 high quality RCTs on various statins. They attempted to adjust for covariates and attract a signal of benefit vs risk. What they found is either no benefit to incredibly marginal (for every 100 patients on Statins, it will prevent 1 heart attack, therefore 99 took it for no benefit, only risk and toxicity).
I'm aware there are studies showing benefits. Lipitor and other Statins wouldn't be approved otherwise. There is also an issue with who does the studies. As you know, it's the pharmaceutical companies. And there have been many lawsuits etc over the years showing big pharma has often withheld data showing their drugs are toxic.
Case in point is another Pfizer drug: Torcetrapib. They withheld data showing it killed more people in the intervention arm vs the placebo arm.
The study I linked to earlier is actually a meta-analysis of 35 high quality RCTs on various statins. They attempted to adjust for covariates and attract a signal of benefit vs risk. What they found is either no benefit to incredibly marginal (for every 100 patients on Statins, it will prevent 1 heart attack, therefore 99 took it for no benefit, only risk and toxicity).
Every powerful drug out there negatively impacts some people, that cannot be the test if so we'd have no powerful drugs. I mentioned tPA earlier......tPA literally kills some patients. However, it saves many, many more and improves outcomes across even more people ergo every stroke care doc. in the country prescribes the drug regularly.
The study you noted is per low risk patients. Statins are overwhelmingly used by higher risk patients.
Starts with COVID19 moves into general points on Pharmaceutical companies. Starts at around the 10 minute mark for those who want to skip ahead.
A French study showed 2 to 1 of new approved drugs were actually harmful to the user. Just one of the many interesting tidbits you will hear here.
I agree with everything in this video.
They are neither. You don’t have to buy their products and services.
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