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Old 03-21-2022, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Fortunately, you are one of the 30% or so who will support Biden and the Democrats no matter what that failed group of criminals and liars says or does.

The remaining 70% of the country isn't going to stand for this one more moment longer than necessary. The first opportunity to put an end to it comes at the the midterms, and you're about to find out how popular your party is.
Possibly that's about right.

On the Dem's side you've got the progressive Bernie/AOC types who probably want to get the deficits back up. Then likewise on the Republican side there's definite some people upset by the more fiscally responsible Democrats who likewise want Trump and/or a mini-Trump to get back in and add another trillion to the budget deficit ASAP. I'm not sure if combined it's as high as you think but definitely it is prevelant from both sides to want to quickly ramp the deficit back up.
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Old 03-21-2022, 02:40 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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of course...its the liberal dream...two classes.... the liberal elite masters who dominate and control the poor serfs, who get the scraps of welfare for voting for their liberal elite masters
Just a few yrs ago I would laughed off what I just posted, along with yours as right wing nut job stuff.

But it's not and I'm not a right winger at all. I've got too many "liberal" views that would get me booted from that club. I do admit that I'll take a right leaning person over the left progressive crowd.

Trump exposed the far left for what they are. All of this horsecrap was really started under Obama. He was more subtle than Biden.

They had grand plans and Trump got in the way. They exposed just how damn crazy and desperate they are.

They don't even really try to cover up there crap that much these days. The far left progressive Marxist crowd overplayed their hand when it came to the kids. Parents are waking up to the BS. I think the parents are really going to be the ones to beat back this nonsense and get us back toward more of a center based position.

I'm hoping so at least.
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Old 03-21-2022, 02:43 PM
 
Location: By The Beach In Maine
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Not sure where you live but corn and potatos take a TON of space and corn is very easily marauded by wildlife. I'd try green beans and some of the others you mentioned as well as tomotoes including cherry tomatoes.

Second, if you want to get a head start, plant some of them in-doors now from seed and it will save you a lot of money. You can pot-grow a lot of things but may need to water daily.
Yeah. We had corn stalks in our garden as kids, and we had potatoes. But, I still want to try just a few. Depends on how many sign up to use the garden. Maybe they won't let me do corn stalks. I haven't asked, yet.

I want to start as much from seed as possible. I have a screened in porch where I could put them all, gets sunlight half the day, so I need to review which plants need what to ensure that they get what they need on that porch. (Can't keep them inside, the cats will destroy everything.) Watering each day...it'll be like I'm a kid again doing my chores.

I'm just studying up on the best way to do this in pots, because I've only ever done in gardens. And there's a lot that I didn't know you could do in pots.

The community garden is there, but we have a lot of residents spread out all over this complex (I think maybe 12-14 buildings, 6 apartments each building), so, if everyone decides that they suddenly want to grow their own and use that garden...meh. I may not get to do what I want, completely.

ETA: For the record, and to give an idea of just how big that garden was, and my experience with gardens when I was a kid, this is what we grew:

Raspberries
Corn
Potatoes
Beans
Peas
Carrots
3 different types of Squash - all of which I hated (eating)
Pumpkins
Sunflowers
Beets
Tomatoes
Rhubarb

I feel like I'm missing one...but anyway, that's pretty much all of it. It. Was. Huge.
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Old 03-21-2022, 02:46 PM
 
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Not to worry, comrade. Our "educational" institutions have assured us that Intersectional Marxism is the panacea that our country—indeed, our species— has been waiting for. A (*ahem*) 'FINAL solution,' if you will. And they say it's eco-friendly to boot. I suppose I can't disagree on that last point, as engineered famine is of course likely to cure overconsumption. Bernie's admiration of mere breadlines will look outrageously far-right by the time the real leftist Utopia arrives.
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Old 03-21-2022, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Biden and the left want 6trillion BBB..they have NOT brought down the deficit
3 Trillion over 10 years though is still much lower than Trump. It's not to say the Democrats are actually fiscally responsbile. They're not. They're just better than the Repulibcans were under Trump. The Republicans might move on but it's honestly been a very long time since they were fiscally reponsible. Even the modern Republican lovechild Reagan ran the deficit up followed of course by HW who really ran it up. That's generally been the trend. Budgets increase with the fiscally irresponsible Republicans and then the more fiscally responsible Democrats come in and partially clean up the mess. But yes, Obama was less fiscally responsible than Clinton and Biden and whoever follows it's pretty safe to say are/will be less fiscally responsible than Obama. Reagan wasn't awful either on fiscal policy, certainly not to the extent that HW and W were.
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Old 03-21-2022, 02:48 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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So, your chart says that Obama doubled the national debt. Sounds about right.

It went up under Trump as well, but Trump had a once-in-a-decade pandemic to deal with.
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Old 03-21-2022, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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So, your chart says that Obama doubled the national debt. Sounds about right.

It went up under Trump as well, but Trump had a once-in-a-decade pandemic to deal with.
Once in a decade sniffles

I get that it's hard to simulatenously defend Trump's helicopter monetary policies and eviction moratorium while simulatenously also arguing it was all plandemic and just a bad flu year but that's a good one.
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Old 03-21-2022, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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I’m Center-Right and wasn’t impressed by Biden’s campaign since he avoided talking about is plans to conquer everything, to include COVID, but way more died on his watch and using his “plan.”

Yes, I tend to vote more for the Republican side lately since they make better sense with spending Biden’s BBB plan is a failure failure and spending more isn’t fix the economy.

As for the New Green Deal, that’s a crock of BS. Can it work and do we need it yes, but in gradual steps, not in some overnight force-feeding attempt to shut down our system to make it work. Plus, until China and India are held to the same standards of the Western countries, it’s not going to work.

Biden screwed up or whoever is making his mind up for him, from day on. He ran as a common sense Centrist, but chose listen to the Far-Left, so I’m hoping that the Democrats loose big time in November to stop the damage Biden is causing, with all his failed “plans.”
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Old 03-21-2022, 03:15 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Yes, that's all I've ever done in my entire life. /sarc

I've already said it many times on this forum about the enormous garden we had to take care of when we were kids. This was the first time that I did everything, from the very start to the picking. The only difference was I didn't buy the plants or seeds or rototill the soil when I was kid. But we had to create the rows, we had to plant them, we had to take care of them, we had to weed the damn garden, we had to pick or pull up the goods.

The tomato plant that I grew was my first time doing it all on my own, no parent telling me, after asking 'Can I go to the pool', that I needed to go tend to the garden, first.

I didn't need another plant, because that one bore so many tomatoes, I had to give them away.

Any other assuming questions?
I was just playing with you about the one tomato plant. And also I did not realize you were talking about when you was a kid.

But every year I plant a vegetable garden as do other people I know. Most because it is something of a hobby but this year with inflation it might take on a whole new meaning.
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Old 03-21-2022, 03:18 PM
 
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A year from now people will be struggling to buy basic food and many other necessities of life. The dream of a socialist utopia is gone. Lucky if we aren’t in the middle of a world war.

I had no idea one incompetent administration could do this much damage.
Let’s hope so.
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