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Old 04-03-2022, 01:46 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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If people don't have any better sense than to indulge in highly dangerous drugs, such as fentanyl, whether legal or not, and as much die, then that is of their own wrongful doing, not somebody else's. Republicans love to say they stand for personal, individual responsibility, and I don't mind agreeing with them on that.
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Old 04-03-2022, 03:28 AM
 
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If people don't have any better sense than to indulge in highly dangerous drugs, such as fentanyl, whether legal or not, and as much die, then that is of their own wrongful doing, not somebody else's. Republicans love to say they stand for personal, individual responsibility, and I don't mind agreeing with them on that.
I don’t know what’s wrong with Democrats sometimes- but this ain’t about fentanyl. I could give a RA about it and if you take it.

This is about a criminal organization controlling the border and Democrats who enabled them by allowing our border to be a free for all.
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Old 04-03-2022, 04:58 AM
 
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Besides e-verify, we need to end birth right citizenship.
Millions of anchor babies are coming of voting age every year.
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Old 04-03-2022, 06:49 AM
 
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Besides e-verify, we need to end birth right citizenship.
Millions of anchor babies are coming of voting age every year.
There are 400,000 anchor babies born each year. Figure out how many have been born since the 80's. Many of these anchor babies are adults now and giving birth to their anchors. I have no idea why the SC hasn't taken up this issue. It has made a mockery out of our citizenship. It's also going to change our identifying culture and language eventually and not in a lawful or natural way.
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Old 04-03-2022, 06:53 AM
 
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The preceding post had a link to a copy of a SocSecAdmin form letter that says participation is voluntary - as in NO LAW compels participation. And thus NO LAW stops an employer from hiring an unnumbered American.

People who have endowed rights to life and to support that life by harmless labor do not need government permission nor comply with regulations nor are they subject to a tax for the exercise of rights.
Subjects who don't have rights, and only government privileges (aka "civil rights") have to comply.
. . . .
‘The right to follow any of the common occupations of life is an inalienable right…’ And ‘It has been well said that ‘the property which every man has in his own labor, as it is the original foundation of all other property, so it is the most sacred and inviolable. The patrimony of the poor man lies in the strength and dexterity of his owns hands, and to hinder his employing this strength and dexterity in what manner he thinks proper, without injury to his neighbor, is a plain violation of this most sacred property.’’
- - - U.S. Supreme Court, Butcher’s Union Co. v Crescent City Co., 111 U.S. 746 (1883)

" PERSONAL LIBERTY, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or NATURAL Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable."
- - - 16 Corpus Juris Secundum, Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987

" Any claim that this statute is a taxing statute would be immediately open to severe constitutional objections. If it could be said that the state had the POWER TO TAX A RIGHT, this would enable the state to DESTROY RIGHTS guaranteed by the constitutions through the use of oppressive taxation. The question herein, is one of the state taxing the right of travel by the ordinary modes of the day, and whether this is a legitimate object of state taxation. The views advanced herein are neither novel nor unsupported by authority. The question of the taxing power of the states has been repeatedly considered by the High Court. The right of the states to impede or embarrass the constitutional operations of the the U.S. Government or the Rights which the citizens hold under it, has been uniformly denied."
- - - McCulloch v. Maryland 4 Wheat 316.

"A state may not impose a charge for the enjoyment of a right granted by the Federal Constitution."
- - - Murdock v. Pennsylvania, 319 US 105, at 113 (1943).
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As stated in the Declaration, it is a self-evident truth that all men are created equal (before the law) and have Creator endowed rights that governments were instituted to secure - not tax, regulate nor trespass. And the right to work and trade the fruits of his labor is a SACRED right, part of the fundamental or natural rights that all men have.

However, if one CONSENTS, all bets are off.

CONSENT OF THE CITIZENRY
“ Our theory of government and governmental powers is wholly at variance with that urged by appellant herein. The rights of the individual are not derived from governmental agencies, either municipal, state or federal, or even from the Constitution. They exist inherently in every man, by endowment of the Creator, and are merely reaffirmed in the Constitution, and restricted only to the extent that they have been VOLUNTARILY SURRENDERED BY THE CITIZENSHIP to the agencies of government. The people's rights are not derived from the government, but the government's authority comes from the people. The Constitution but states again these rights already existing, and when legislative encroachment by the nation, state, or municipality invade these original and permanent rights, it is the duty of the courts to so declare, and to afford the necessary relief. The fewer restrictions that surround the individual liberties of the citizen, except those for the preservation of the public health, safety, and morals, the more contented the people and the more successful the democracy.”
- - - City of Dallas v Mitchell, 245 S.W. 944
https://casetext.com/case/city-of-dallas-v-mitchell-1
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The rights of the individual / national / non-citizen / inhabitant / non-resident are not derived from government, but are Creator endowed... (i.e., republican form of government)
But once consent to be governed is granted, via citizenship, that endowment has been surrendered / waived by the citizenry. Why? Because mandatory civic duties abrogate endowed natural rights, natural and personal liberty, absolute ownership of private property, etc, etc. That’s the consequence of migrating to their democratic form of government, where a majority can legally persecute a minority.

Now you have to ask the government to explain exactly from whom did they get the delegated power to impose citizenship upon infants who cannot consent, and thus via mandatory civic duties, ABROGATE THE ENDOWED RIGHTS that governments were instituted to secure. Ask them to "show the law" that doesn't violate the Prime Directive of the Republican Form of government.
. . .
Or maybe they never did pass a law that is applicable in the united States of America and any lands under "their" jurisdiction, where the republican form is guaranteed to the States (Art. 4, Sec. 4, USCON).
None of the above negates the fact that it's the law to have a SS number to gain employment or to retain that employment.
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Old 04-03-2022, 07:00 AM
 
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I don’t know what’s wrong with Democrats sometimes- but this ain’t about fentanyl. I could give a RA about it and if you take it.

This is about a criminal organization controlling the border and Democrats who enabled them by allowing our border to be a free for all.
You think the drug cartels are a new problem? or only due to Democrats?


The fact is, the cartels have been thriving for decades, despite which party is in power at any given time...the root problem seems to be DEA...they are the agency tasked with dealing with this problem, but they have failed miserably for many many years now...we have watched the drug problem grow and grow...there never seems to be any problems smuggling this stuff in consistently.


This would indicate, the DEA is likely been compromised and is now working directly for the cartels benefit, (not in trying to deal with this problem).


If you really think about it, the cartels rely on the DEA being in place, otherwise they would not have such a lucrative business in the US, this is why I always say that the DEA is a dangerous terrorist organization...(thanks to their efforts, 100s of 1000s of lives have been lost or destroyed), not even factoring in the overall cost to the US, in short, the DEA needs to GO ASAP and every single person working for them, needs to be charged criminally in the International court.
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Old 04-03-2022, 07:14 AM
 
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That’s nice but we’re happy to give Ukraine $20 billion
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Old 04-03-2022, 08:22 AM
 
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the war on drugs has been a failure for decades....one would have to either put thousands of people to death, or except



the fact that nearly every family has substance abuse issues within their own family and restructure abuse laws into the health arena out of the criminal arena....


Mexico has been a failed country as well for decades, no party really wants reform as republicans represent employers who hire the illeagals
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Old 04-03-2022, 11:46 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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If people don't have any better sense than to indulge in highly dangerous drugs, such as fentanyl, whether legal or not, and as much die, then that is of their own wrongful doing, not somebody else's. Republicans love to say they stand for personal, individual responsibility, and I don't mind agreeing with them on that.
Then we might as well legalize. Fentanyl. We could put little stands up on inner city corners. It would be crack pipes with a big enough dose to kill somebody. After that let free will take its course.
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Old 04-03-2022, 11:52 AM
 
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the war on drugs has been a failure for decades....one would have to either put thousands of people to death, or except



the fact that nearly every family has substance abuse issues within their own family and restructure abuse laws into the health arena out of the criminal arena....


Mexico has been a failed country as well for decades, no party really wants reform as republicans represent employers who hire the illeagals
If you think that it's only the Republicans who get kick backs from the employers and hire illegal aliens then you're not dealing in reality.
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