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Old 03-24-2022, 06:26 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Eyebee Teepee View Post
sort of - he certainly didn't call for it to be banned. What he said was "well, you can't take one issue and treat it as Federal when you want to say issues in general shouldn't be Federal."
Just think: On the Edumund Pettus bridge was it federal marshals trying to protect people or the state troopers?

 
Old 03-24-2022, 06:29 PM
 
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These days it seems this kind of conservative extremism and regression to 1850 is routine.
 
Old 03-24-2022, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Please don't repeat internet hoaxes.
1. Not true at all.
2. Demonstrably false
3.?
4. There were no Republican legislatures in Jim Crow states; however there were discriminatory laws in other states. Parochial schools were banned in WA, not in the south.
5. The difference was north vs. south and there were very few southern Republican legislators so a higher percentage was assured. The Civil Rights movement was a program of Democrats and Republican progressives; not conservatives in either party.
6. Republicans changed voting laws without showing a reason or finding and laws being violated. In NC the judge said that the new laws affected only Democrats and the poor 'with razor-like precision'.

Plus:

7. Republicans sure look defensive in making up things about Democrats and racism.
8. In 1960 California Republicans wanted as a plank in the national platform: "All Negroes should be shipped back to Africa". Cooler heads sank the proposal.
9. In 1924 there was a plank suggested at the Democratic convention to condemn the Klan. It lost by a single vote.
Please don't make things up because you don't care about the truth.
1. True, try providing proof otherwise
2. True, try providing proof otherwise oh you used Demonstrably gee that must mean something
3. hahahaha you have no clue about FDR throwing over 100,000 people in jail, mainly Japanese?hahahahaha
4. Again every Jim Crow Law was passed by a democratic legislature
5. Nothing to do with region and everything to do with democrats. As if the Northern democrats supported any republicans.
6. Nothing to do with what I posted. Only a sleazy attempt at deflection. Again the democrats specifically said blacks can't get IDs or vote on time. Nothing to do with affecting democrats or the poor.

Plus:
7. Making things up again with no proof
8. Again making things up. Someone said something? lol
9. Wow 1 vote. So only half those dems were filthy racists. That's so much better

Stop with this absurd plank stuff and start telling the truth.

Last edited by Loveshiscountry; 03-24-2022 at 06:45 PM..
 
Old 03-24-2022, 06:38 PM
 
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
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These days it seems this kind of conservative extremism and regression to 1850 is routine.
Making America great again? /s
 
Old 03-24-2022, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Sure! What we had, historically, was a crazy patchwork. Harry Bridges, a longshoreman, sued in California to marry a Japanese woman and won. So a ban against interracial marriages was struck down there. However. southern states (and a northern one) still banned the practice. Virginia, holding on its historically inaccurate legends, banned interracial marriages except for descendants of John Rolfe and Pocahontas! Now, that's an exception! Japanese American filed an amicus brief in the Loving case and said that the laws affected them differently in different areas of the country.

You have to understand that the Lovings were convicted of a felony for marrying and banned from Virginia. Plus getting married surely is a personal right to be upheld by the Constitution and any laws affecting marriage would be subject to strict scrutiny under Constitutional principles.

Only SCOTUS is allowed the last word on Constitutional rights. Otherwise the US would be balkanized. Think of servicemen with foreign wives who could be transferred to some bases and not others! It would be an untenable situation.

Even if the IN legislator was just trumpeting states' rights, he had it wrong on this one.
hahahaha You don't understand what a right is yet you comment? hahahahaha

Marriage is not a personal right. It's called equal protection under the law. That's why inter racial and gay marriages are government deemed legal.

Clueless
 
Old 03-24-2022, 06:51 PM
 
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https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ux-klan/Please don't make things up because you don't care about the truth.
1. True, try providing proof otherwise[/quote]
There were slaves in many states, evn outside the south.
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2. True, try providing proof otherwise
No, the Democratic Party didn't create the Klan.
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...klu-klux-klan/
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hahahaha you have no clue about FDR throwing over 100,000 people in jail, mainly Japanese?hahahahaha
How do you know I'm not Nisei? The wartime order was upheld by SCOTUS in Korematsu.
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4. Again every Jim Crow Law was passed by a democratic legislature
Restrictive covenants had to be struck down in many northern states. Hansberry v. Lee involved a law passed by Republicans.

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5. Nothing to do with region and everything to do with democrats. As if the Northern democrats supported any republicans.
It had everything to do with region with the southern legislators solidly against the civil rights laws. Some progressive Republicans (think Rockefeller, Javits and Percy) got wide Democratic support.

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6. Nothing to do with what I posted. Only a sleazy attempt at deflection. Again the democrats specifically said blacks can't get IDs or vote on time. Nothing to do with affecting democrats or the poor.
What Democrats said is that the unnecessary laws would impact most heavily the poor and minorities. Judges agreed.

Plus:
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7. Making things up again with no proof
Why do Republican have to lie now about civil rights? Because they welcomed segregationists like Helms and Thurmond?
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8. Again making things up
Do some research
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At the Republicans’ California state convention, moderates barely managed to block a platform resolution to “send Negroes back to Africa.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/b...tea-party.html
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Stop with this absurd plank stuff and start telling the truth.
Do some research and stop swallowing internet hoaxes.
 
Old 03-24-2022, 07:00 PM
 
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Marriage is not a personal right. It's called equal protection under the law. That's why inter racial and gay marriages are government deemed legal. Clueless
It was stated in the Loving decision:
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The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men. Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremec...%26amp%3Bhl%3D

Clue that.
 
Old 03-24-2022, 07:02 PM
 
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well, this was 1967? What was your age then, and what would your knee-jerk guess be?



oh, clearly he was. But there was something to it if it went all the way to SCOTUS.



clearly, many school systems dragged their feet. And it took until at least the Civil Rights Act for Brown v Board to see legislated reality. How long does it take to implement most Federal laws across the land?



neither/none of these involves human rights, which was your claim. They don't even involve civil rights.

Have any Parental Responsibility Act opponents threatened lawsuit over the Constitutionality of it? If yes, what was their legal reasoning?
We disagree on whether or not the laws I reference violate human/civil rights, but you already knew that. The Courts will decide. If enough people don't like the courts decisions, there will be protest, re-litigation and/or turning out of office the legislators who wrote the legislation in question. I fully expect all the legislation to be in court in multiple states.

As for the Dont Say Gay bill, activists and members of the community have already indicated they plan to sue over constitutionality issues from discrimination to unconstitutionally vague. Too early to tell what else, but I expect lawsuits from school districts, teachers and possibly others.

As for your hotel question, I didn't bring the subject up, already gave you my guess and am not going to do research on it. Most people say jim crow laws ended in 1965. The Green Book telling Black Americans where it was safe to go when traveling ceased publishing around 1967 if I recall correctly.

No idea average time it takes to implement Fed law. If you know, do share. Not really sure how its relevant, but it may be interesting.
 
Old 03-24-2022, 07:02 PM
 
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https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ux-klan/Please don't make things up because you don't care about the truth.
1. True, try providing proof otherwise
There were slaves in many states, evn outside the south.
And they were owned overwhelmingly by democrats. As if states has anything to do with it. Try harder

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No, the Democratic Party didn't create the Klan.
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...klu-klux-klan/
It started after the Civil War. The democrats were the ownes behind it. make something else up.

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How do you know I'm not Nisei? The wartime order was upheld by SCOTUS in Korematsu.
Restrictive covenants had to be struck down in many northern states. Hansberry v. Lee involved a law passed by Republicans.
Again a democrat issued executive order 9066 which threw over 100,000 Americans in jail,without due process, based on ethnicity. Nothing you posted proves otherwise.

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It had everything to do with region with the southern legislators solidly against the civil rights laws. Some progressive Republicans (think Rockefeller, Javits and Percy) got wide Democratic support.
Again it was the democrats. The region doesn't matter. The party does. Democrats support democrats, that's the norm. That you say otherwise is laughable.

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What Democrats said is that the unnecessary laws would impact most heavily the poor and minorities. Judges agreed.
make up your mind, first you said democrats and poor. Now you say poor and minorities. Explain why you think minorities, meaning blacks and hispanics are too inept to get a voter ID or vote on time. I'll be waiting for your bigoted response.
BTW it isn't about minorities. Nothing to do with Asians who the left hates since it backs Affirmative Action. More proof of the racist left.

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Plus:

Why do Republican have to lie now about civil rights? Because they welcomed segregationists like Helms and Thurmond?.
Republicans aren't the ones here lying about civil rights. make something else up.

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Do some research


Do some research and stop swallowing internet hoaxes.
hahahaha Says someone who has been proven incorrect over and over in this thread and who thinks marriage is a right. hahahahaha Thanks for the laugh.
 
Old 03-24-2022, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It was stated in the Loving decision:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremec...%26amp%3Bhl%3D

Clue that.
The reason it passed, not that you care about the truth, is equal protection under the law. It is a religious and civic institution. It is a privilege.

If it is a right, why in the world do we need government permission to marry?
Can't what to see what you make up about this.

Clue that.
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