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Anyway, the side who claims "Jan 6 was worse than 9/11" has no room to talk.
Sorry, I come from a 'fact pleading' jurisdiction and that is pure opinion. Some opinions are more accurate than others and that one is just laughable.
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Sorry, I come from a 'fact pleading' jurisdiction and that is pure opinion.
You'd quoted my post where I'd specifically asked the other poster to show the "mess of misspellings" and "lies" that she was claiming. Then you put in something that is "opinion"? Seems you were trying to pass that opinion off as a lie, you just weren't expecting to be called on it.
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Some opinions are more accurate than others and that one is just laughable.
You'd quoted my post where I'd specifically asked the other poster to show the "mess of misspellings" and "lies" that she was claiming. Then you put in something that is "opinion"? Seems you were trying to pass that opinion off as a lie, you just weren't expecting to be called on it.
If you noticed, the complaint is rife with opinion; some of it laughable. In 'fact pleading' jurisdictions, lawyers plead facts, not their opinions as to what happened. I think that is a better system.
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Yes, this is far more serious than Watergate.
The president of the US was an unindicted co-conspirator in Watergate. This isn't even a criminal complaint. Two AGs resigned in Watergate and one went to jail.
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If you noticed, the complaint is rife with opinion; some of it laughable. In 'fact pleading' jurisdictions, lawyers plead facts, not their opinions as to what happened. I think that is a better system.
The president of the US was an unindicted co-conspirator in Watergate. This isn't even a criminal complaint. Two AGs resigned in Watergate and one went to jail.
You're just wrong.
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Legal Complaint
A legal complaint, or civil complaint, is the first document filed in a case, and it is often served along with a summons. The purpose of a legal complaint is to lay out all of the facts and reasons why the plaintiff decided to bring the suit, along with the case law that supports his decision to bring the suit. Some of the information that is typically listed in these documents includes:
Allegations against the defendant
The specific laws the defendant allegedly violated
The facts that led to the lawsuit being filed
Plaintiff’s demands for the defendant to follow to make good on what he allegedly did wrong
You see what it says about laying out facts (not argument!) in a complaint? Consider that. That dictionary snippet supports what I posted. Comparing any incident to one 40 years ago is not laying out facts and really is not what is appropriate in a civil complaint.
And leave off the personal remarks. You don't know my background.
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You see what it says about laying out facts (not argument!) in a complaint? Consider that. That dictionary snippet supports what I posted. Comparing any incident to one 40 years ago is not laying out facts and really is not what is appropriate in a civil complaint.
allegation
1. An assertion that someone has done something wrong, often without proof: Allegations of excessive drinking tarnished the CEO's reputation. https://www.thefreedictionary.com/allegation
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And leave off the personal remarks. You don't know my background.
The same could be said of you.
Also, you still have not addressed why you felt the need to quote my post to talk about "opinion".
To state some allegation is worse than a historical incident, can be nothing more than an opinion. There has been no factual determination of what incident was worse and there really could not be. What difference does it make?
For a lawyer to put that type of nonsense in a legal complaint is just ridiculous. Habba has shown herself previously not to have the type of experience or judgment to be handling cases of national import. Now they are trying to sue in Florida? What part of their allegations took place in Florida? Probably none. The defendants don't reside in FL, either, so they certainly will try to have the case moved to a different jurisdiction. Those are some of the basic rules of federal jurisdiction.
Plus, in order to go forward with this suit, as others have noted, Trump will have to make himself available to sit for a deposition. I can't wait to see that happen.
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