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Old 03-25-2022, 09:03 PM
 
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I never seen a Joe a$$ kissing for doing nothing but to raise prices for the people.

 
Old 03-25-2022, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I never seen a Joe a$$ kissing for doing nothing but to raise prices for the people.
Bingo…Just wait till he passes out more free stuff for his own created Bidenflation
 
Old 03-25-2022, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Had Trump gotten a second term do you think Putin would have still invaded?

No. Because Trump did not have Hunter Biden's financial interests in Ukraine.
 
Old 03-25-2022, 09:41 PM
 
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Had Trump gotten a second term do you think Putin would have still invaded?
Absolutely. And Ukraine probably would have gone under, because Trump had alienated so many heads of state, so America would never have taken the lead, as we have with Biden.
 
Old 03-25-2022, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Absolutely. And Ukraine probably would have gone under, because Trump had alienated so many heads of state, so America would never have taken the lead, as we have with Biden.

a little long...but makes the point




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A recent Harvard-Harris poll found that 62 percent of Americans believe that Russia would not have invaded Ukraine if Donald Trump were still in the Oval Office. As former senior intelligence officials under President Trump, we agree with that view.


During his four years in office, Trump not only successfully deterred Russia from acting against Ukraine, he effectively deterred a lot of bad behavior across the planet. He focused on ending America’s foreign wars rather than launching new ones. At the same time, he brokered the Abraham Accords to expand peace in the Middle East.


Ultimately, the art of statecraft boils down to whether a president projects American strength that deters adversaries, or projects American weakness that emboldens our adversaries.
So how did Trump succeed in containing Putin while the Russian autocrat has run wild with others in the White House? Why was he so successful at spreading peace elsewhere? We believe the long answer begins with these ten ways that Donald Trump projected American strength and kept the bad guys in check:
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  1. Rebuilt the American Military
  2. Crusaded for American Energy Dominance
  3. Set the Tone by Launching Surgical Missile Strikes in Syria in Early 2017
  4. Developed Strong Relationships with Middle Eastern Nations Based on Mutual Interests
  5. Was Ruthless with the Taliban While Winding Down the Afghanistan War
  6. Crushed the ISIS Caliphate
  7. Demonstrated a Consistent Willingness to Take out the Bad Guys
  8. Stood Up to China
  9. Strategically Used Unpredictability as an Asset in Foreign Affairs
  10. Advanced Tough Russia Policies and Provided Lethal Aid to Ukraine while Maintaining an Open Dialogue
When President Trump initiated the process of ending America’s longest war, senior officials huddled in the Situation Room to discuss tactical challenges on the ground. The president reminded the group of America’s humiliating withdrawal from Saigon at the end of the Vietnam War, and said we must do whatever it takes to leave in a safe, orderly, and dignified way. When military leaders bemoaned the costs and logistical challenges of bringing home our equipment, the president said that he did not care if it was a helicopter or a styrofoam cooler. If it had an American flag on it, it was either coming home or getting destroyed to keep it from falling into the hands of our enemies. He vowed that we would leave on our terms, or we would not leave at all.
Tragically, President Biden’s approach – which included the decision to abandon the strategically important Bagram Air Base prior to the evacuation – cost the lives of 13 American servicemembers and led to the Taliban parading victoriously through Kabul with billions of dollars of American combat equipment. The administration’s stunning incompetence – detailed in an official U.S. Army report – made the United States look weak and vulnerable on the world stage, and Putin was watching.
The world took notice when Trump ordered the killing of Iranian terrorist general Qassem Soleimani, who had operated with impunity throughout the Middle East until the U.S. military sent two Hellfire missiles through his vehicle. As a candidate for president, Biden released a statement condemning the righteous attack as a “hugely escalatory move” that brought us to “the brink of a major conflict across the Middle East.” This, of course, proved to not be the case, but it illustrated Biden’s unwillingness to do what it takes to establish credible deterrence.
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This principle of deterrence applies across the globe, which explains why the Chinese military has sent a record number of airplanes into Taiwan’s air defense identification zone since Biden took office.
To the specific case at hand, Trump was much tougher on Russia than the media have led people to believe, while Biden has been far softer.
Trump deployed such aggressive sanctions against Russia that President Obama’s Secretary of Defense Robert Gates called them the toughest in history, and he withdrew from one-sided treaties that hamstrung the U.S. while Russia violated the terms.
Biden has taken the opposite approach, appeasing Putin by handing him his top two geopolitical priorities on a silver platter. He unconditionally extended the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, allowing Russia to continue building tactical nuclear weapons while constraining our ability to modernize. And while Trump imposed sanctions to stop Russia’s Nord Stream 2 pipeline in its tracks, construction was allowed to resume when Biden took office.
President Trump understood the power of building American energy dominance. By slashing onerous regulations, Trump sparked an American energy boom that ensured we would never be reliant on any other nation to meet our energy needs. Geopolitically, America’s increased export capacity reduced Putin’s leverage over our European allies, who depend on Russia for 40 percent of their gas and more than a quarter of their oil.
Trump approved the Keystone XL oil pipeline at home and shut down Russia’s Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline in Eastern Europe. Biden reversed both decisions, meaning he has been harder on America’s energy producers than he has been on Russia’s. To add insult to injury, as the Russian army pushed into Ukraine, Biden’s climate envoy John Kerry hoped aloud that “President Putin will help us to stay on track with respect to what we need to do for the climate.”
Vladimir Putin’s appetite for expansion did not wane during the four years Trump was in office, and the world was not just miraculously a safer place. Bad actors like Putin simply knew that they had to restrain themselves or deal with the consequences. In nearly every way possible, President Biden has weakened the United States and our allies and empowered Putin. As a result, Russia is on the march, even as the Ukrainian people have inspired the world with their courage and resilience. And in the wings, America’s greatest threat – Xi Jinping’s China – waits, and watches.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/03/03...pulled-it-off/
 
Old 03-26-2022, 12:19 AM
 
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Absolutely. And Ukraine probably would have gone under, because Trump had alienated so many heads of state, so America would never have taken the lead, as we have with Biden.

Is this a bad joke? So when Putin took Crimea under Obama/Biden in 2014 were the "heads of states" united behind the U.S.? Tell me how the "heads of states" prevented Putin from expanding under Obama in 2014 and now in 2022 under Biden?


What lead has Biden taken apart from raising prices for everybody?
 
Old 03-26-2022, 12:21 AM
 
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Absolutely. And Ukraine probably would have gone under, because Trump had alienated so many heads of state, so America would never have taken the lead, as we have with Biden.
Yup. Might have just been Ukraine goes under and the Trumpicans believe Vlad.

 
Old 03-26-2022, 12:27 AM
 
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But the fact is Putin expanded under Obama and now Biden. What do you expect from a war criminal that voted to invade Iraq and wanted to divide Iraq into 3 countries? That's Biden.
 
Old 03-26-2022, 01:33 AM
 
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I don't know where you get facts.

In fact, the Ukraine has been fighting against Russia since 2014. Ukrainian nationalists have been fostered and armed by NATO all these years to fight against Russians.

Those nationalists are not different from freedom fighters in other Banana Republics.
 
Old 03-26-2022, 03:16 AM
 
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Had Trump gotten a second term do you think Putin would have still invaded?
Yes. If Ukraine couldn’t deter the invasion, what makes you think the US could or would?
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